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Domenico Francesco Bruscino commented on ARTEMIS-4305:
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What issue does the old message flow record cause to the cluster?

> Zero persistence does not work in kubernetes
> --------------------------------------------
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>                 Key: ARTEMIS-4305
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4305
>             Project: ActiveMQ Artemis
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Ivan Iliev
>            Priority: Major
>
> In a cluster deployed in kubernetes, when a node is destroyed it terminates 
> the process and shuts down the network before the process has a chance to 
> close connections. Then a new node might be brought up, reusing the old 
> node’s ip. If this happens before the connection ttl, from artemis’ point of 
> view, it looks like as if the connection came back. Yet it is actually not 
> the same, the peer has a new node id, etc. This messes things up with the 
> cluster, the old message flow record is invalid.
> One way to fix it could be if the {{Ping}} messages which are typically used 
> to detect dead connections could use some sort of connection id to match that 
> the other side is really the one which it is supposed to be.



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