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ASF GitHub Bot logged work on ARTEMIS-4498:
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                Author: ASF GitHub Bot
            Created on: 14/Dec/23 21:19
            Start Date: 14/Dec/23 21:19
    Worklog Time Spent: 10m 
      Work Description: jbertram commented on PR #4670:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/4670#issuecomment-1856621399

   The previous failures have been resolved, but these are failing now:
    - 
o.a.a.a.t.i.o.m.OpenWireManagementTest.testHiddenInternalQueue[useDefault=true,supportAdvisory=false,suppressJmx=false]
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o.a.a.a.t.i.o.m.OpenWireManagementTest.testHiddenInternalAddress[useDefault=true,supportAdvisory=false,suppressJmx=false]
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o.a.a.a.t.i.o.m.OpenWireManagementTest.testHiddenInternalQueue[useDefault=false,supportAdvisory=true,suppressJmx=false]
    - 
o.a.a.a.t.i.o.m.OpenWireManagementTest.testHiddenInternalAddress[useDefault=false,supportAdvisory=true,suppressJmx=false]
    - 
o.a.a.a.t.i.o.m.OpenWireManagementTest.testHiddenInternalQueue[useDefault=false,supportAdvisory=true,suppressJmx=true]
    - 
o.a.a.a.t.i.o.m.OpenWireManagementTest.testHiddenInternalAddress[useDefault=false,supportAdvisory=true,suppressJmx=true]
    - 
o.a.a.a.t.i.o.m.OpenWireManagementTest.testHiddenInternalQueue[useDefault=false,supportAdvisory=false,suppressJmx=true]
    - 
o.a.a.a.t.i.o.m.OpenWireManagementTest.testHiddenInternalAddress[useDefault=false,supportAdvisory=false,suppressJmx=true]
   
   The problem is that we can't simply change the test here because folks 
really do want to ignore the management objects for OpenWire advisory 
resources. Therefore, I think we need to add a new queue attribute (e.g. 
`manageable`) at least for the broker to use in cases like this.
   
   A different solution would be to leave the semantics of _internal_ the way 
they are now but just change the store-and-forward queues so that they aren't 
internal by default and ensure that users have access to set the property on 
any queue via management.
   
   Thoughts?




Issue Time Tracking
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    Worklog Id:     (was: 895731)
    Time Spent: 4h 40m  (was: 4.5h)

> Enable management for internal addresses & queues
> -------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: ARTEMIS-4498
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4498
>             Project: ActiveMQ Artemis
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Anton Roskvist
>            Priority: Major
>          Time Spent: 4h 40m
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> Originally "internal" addresses and queues weren't meant to be exposed via 
> management. However, due to a bug where the "internal" attribute of a queue 
> was not persisted properly such queues have been exposed to management for a 
> long time. This was fixed via ARTEMIS-4396, but users still want the ability 
> to manage internal queues because it is extremely helpful when trying to 
> troubleshoot issues. Therefore, this functionality should be configurable.



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