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David Cifer commented on CAMEL-4948:
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I changed my mind. I was able to reproduce the issue.

I've created a new route, which generates an exception, the same way as above. 
I made the previous queue to pass the elements at the end of the route.
I've run the test twice and again I begin to lose messages. This time activemq 
restart didn't sorted the problem.
                
> Chaos arround durable jms transacted configuration
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-4948
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4948
>             Project: Camel
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: camel-activemq, camel-core, camel-jms
>    Affects Versions: 2.8.1
>         Environment: JDK=1.6.24 Oracle
>            Reporter: David Cifer
>            Priority: Minor
>         Attachments: camelasync.zip
>
>   Original Estimate: 168h
>  Remaining Estimate: 168h
>
> Maybe this is two bug and maybe I miss understand something, but here is the 
> issue.
> I've created a test. A route, which reads a JMS transacted durable, but every 
> fifth message is thrown back by an exception.
> For example I send 10 message into the durrable, than I generate 2 exception. 
> One for the fifth one and one for the nineth (because the fifth one going to 
> be resend as transaction failed).
> Here is the route:
> from("jms:topic:test2?clientId=testClient&durableSubscriptionName=testSubs&transacted=true")
>                 .log("Processign from durable: ${body}").delay(100)
>                 .process(new ExceptionGenerator())
>                 .log("Retrieved from durable: ${body}").to("mock:durable");
> Code of the Exception generator:
> public void process(Exchange arg0) throws Exception {
>       int i = counter.incrementAndGet();
>       if (i % 5 == 0) {             
>         throw new IllegalArgumentException("Every fifth message is illegal: " 
> + arg0.getIn().getBody());
>       }
>     }
> The issue, what I had is that the first message (the fifth) is rolled back 
> just nice. But after that all message simply lost.
> This is I think the reason that since 2.8.x you have to use CACHE_NONE 
> otherwise you mess up the transaction cache.
> Here is the second part of the problem:
> The whole test works just fine under 2.7.5
> But to make it start above that is a configuration nightmare. For example 
> clientId and transacted options in the route definition cannot appear 
> together.
> To make it work above 2.7.5 You have to add manually to the connection 
> configuration:
>     ActiveMQConnectionFactory connectionFactory = new 
> ActiveMQConnectionFactory(ACTIVE_MQ_HOST);
>     connectionFactory.setClientID("testClient"); // <-- This is necessary 
> above 2.7.5 meaning 2.8.x. Under 2.8.x so example 2.7.5 will break 
> configuration
>     ctx.addComponent("activemq", 
> ActiveMQComponent.activeMQComponent(ACTIVE_MQ_HOST));
> Summary:
> Above 2.7.5 clientId and transacted cannot appear in the same durable 
> specification. Which makes configuration brake backward compatibilty. It has 
> to be configured on connection factory level, which means I have to create a 
> connectionfactory for each durable endpoint.
> Above 2.7.5 only the first transaction got rolled back. Upcomming failiures 
> got lost.

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