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Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-22089:
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Okay so I think we can make this 
 * management.port = 1234 (create new embedded HTTP server to use this explicit 
for that given port)
 * management.port = 0 (create new embedded HTTP server to use this explicit 
for a random assigned port number by netty)
 * management.port = -1 (new default meaning its turned off, and will reuse 
existing business HTTP server; usually running on port 8080)



The http summary should then be updated as well and all of these management 
stuff like /q/console and /q/xxx should be moved over to management server.
And so it can have a mix of /q/ and /observe together.

Then the startup summary is more clean, and will only show business services if 
the end user have anything in their Camel routes.

> camel-observability-services - Port 9876 should be optional
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-22089
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-22089
>             Project: Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 4.12.0
>            Reporter: Claus Ibsen
>            Priority: Major
>             Fix For: 4.12.0
>
>
> We should not hardcode port 9876 for this as end users may not want to use 
> this, and it should be something explicit if you want that. Otherwise it 
> should be using the default platform-http port number that are 8080 etc.
>  
>  



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