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Karol Krawczyk commented on CAMEL-24551:
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I looked at this while working on CAMEL-24550 and hit three things worth 
settling before any code goes in.

*1. Setting the properties next to observation.recordError() would make them 
conditional on observability being present.*

GenAiObservability.start() returns a NOOP observation when observability is 
disabled via properties, or when camel-ai-observability is simply not on the 
classpath (see start() and resolveBridge()). Error metadata that a route's 
error handler depends on would then silently vanish for anyone not using 
tracing. The classification needs to happen in the producer's catch block, or 
in a shared helper called from it, rather than through the observation object.

*2. CamelAiRetryAfterMillis can only be populated for OpenAI.*

com.openai.errors.OpenAIServiceException exposes headers(), so Retry-After is 
reachable there. dev.langchain4j.exception.RateLimitException carries neither 
headers nor a status code; its only constructors take String and Throwable. So 
the property would be present for camel-openai and absent for the langchain4j 
components. Worth deciding deliberately rather than discovering it later. 
CamelAiErrorCategory is achievable everywhere.

*3. camel-ai-observability-api cannot see com.openai.errors at compile time.*

That module depends on camel-support and langchain4j-core only. The langchain4j 
hierarchy (RetriableException / NonRetriableException) can be matched directly, 
but the OpenAI types would need either class-name matching or a per-component 
classifier contributed by the module that has the SDK on its classpath. All 
five producer modules already depend on camel-ai-observability-api, so it is 
the right home either way.

Happy to implement whichever direction you prefer.

_Reported by Claude Code on behalf of Karol Krawczyk_

> Expose structured error metadata (category, retry-after) as Exchange 
> properties when an AI producer call fails
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-24551
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-24551
>             Project: Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: camel-openai
>            Reporter: Claus Ibsen
>            Priority: Major
>
> When OpenAIProducer (and the equivalent langchain4j/spring-ai producers) 
> catch a RuntimeException before rethrowing it for observability (e.g. 
> OpenAIProducer.java ~714-738), they currently only call 
> observation.recordError(e). Propose also setting a small set of Exchange 
> properties derived from the underlying SDK exception, e.g.:
> - CamelAiErrorCategory (e.g. RATE_LIMIT, SERVER_ERROR, VALIDATION, AUTH, 
> UNKNOWN) — classified from the SDK's typed exception hierarchy 
> (RateLimitException, InternalServerException, UnprocessableEntityException, 
> BadRequestException, UnauthorizedException).
> - CamelAiRetryAfterMillis — populated when available (e.g. from a 429's 
> Retry-After header), so an onException handler can react without reaching 
> into SDK-internal exception fields.
> This should live in the shared camel-ai-observability-api module (or a 
> similarly shared camel-ai module) so all four producers (openai, 
> langchain4j-chat/agent/embeddings, spring-ai-chat) get it consistently rather 
> than duplicating logic. No behavior change to what's thrown — properties are 
> additive, set right before the exception propagates.
> Related to CAMEL-24550 (documentation for targeted onException handling), 
> which should reference these new properties once available.



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