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Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-24698:
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Item 7, from run 4 of the benchmark: the aggregator example failed three times 
on Java that did not compile, and the xslt example on a stylesheet using 
current-dateTime() (XSLT 2.0) with the JDK processor; nothing checked either 
before camel run. Done on local branch fix/CAMEL-24698-bean-refs (commit 
820c91ef): SourceValidator now validates .java (compiled in memory with the JDK 
compiler against the CLI classpath, each error with its line), .xsl/.xslt 
(compiled with Saxon when it is on the classpath, else the JDK processor; a 
stylesheet that declares 2.0/3.0 without Saxon is only checked as XML since it 
is meant for xslt-saxon; a 1.0 stylesheet failing on a 2.0 function is pointed 
to the xslt-saxon component) and .xml (well formed). camel_write_file and 
camel_validate_source use it, and the new camel validate source <files> 
validates any of the file kinds from the CLI.

> camel-jbang: follow-ups from the AI agent benchmarks (optional MCP args, CLI 
> validate parity, eval placeholders, validator hints)
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>
>                 Key: CAMEL-24698
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-24698
>             Project: Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: camel-jbang, camel-yaml-dsl
>            Reporter: Claus Ibsen
>            Assignee: Claus Ibsen
>            Priority: Major
>
> Follow-ups from benchmarking AI agents (a frontier model and a 22 GB local 
> model) editing Camel integrations through the Camel MCP tools, 2026-09-11/12. 
> The bugs the benchmarks found first are tracked separately (CAMEL-24692, 
> CAMEL-24693, CAMEL-24694, CAMEL-24695); this issue collects the remaining, 
> smaller items so none of them is lost. Each can be fixed on its own.
> h3. 1. Older camel-jbang-mcp wrappers declare every argument required
> 69 of the 82 tools in camel-jbang-mcp mark every parameter as required in 
> their {{@ToolArg}} declarations, so the Quarkus MCP server rejects any call 
> that omits an optional one with "Missing required argument", and the 
> documented defaults cannot be used. Example: {{camel_catalog_component_doc}} 
> with only {{name}} fails with "Missing required argument: component". 
> CAMEL-24695 fixed this for the eleven shared authoring tools and added a test 
> that keeps their flags equal to the shared descriptors; the older wrappers 
> ({{CatalogTools}}, {{DiagnoseTools}} except {{camel_error_diagnose}}, 
> {{RuntimeTools}}, security, migration, OpenAPI, dependency tools) need 
> {{required = false}} on every optional argument. A small model sends only the 
> arguments it needs, so today it cannot use most of these tools.
> h3. 2. camel validate yaml does not check Simple expressions
> The CLI {{camel validate yaml}} validates the YAML DSL schema only. The Camel 
> TUI's save-time validation and the shared {{camel_validate_source}} tool 
> (CAMEL-24695, {{SourceValidator}} in camel-jbang-core) also check endpoint 
> URIs, Simple expressions and {{camel.*}} properties. A frontier model shipped 
> {{${padding(n)}}} (not a Simple function) past the CLI validator; the runtime 
> caught it. {{camel validate yaml}} should use the shared {{SourceValidator}} 
> so all three entry points report the same problems.
> h3. 3. Expression evaluation does not resolve property placeholders
> {{tui_eval_expression}} (now the shared {{camel_eval_expression}}) evaluated 
> {{${body} >= {{hot.threshold}}}} as written and reported a parse error, while 
> the same expression works in a route because placeholders are resolved before 
> Simple is parsed. The evaluator should resolve placeholders from the running 
> integration's properties (or from the project's application.properties when 
> evaluating locally) before evaluating, or say clearly that a placeholder was 
> left unresolved. Re-check after CAMEL-24692.
> h3. 4. Validator error messages should say what to do
> The YAML DSL validator returns the raw schema error. Two cases from the 
> benchmark where the message stopped a small model and would slow a person:
> * "log: property 'loggerName' is not defined in the schema" should add "did 
> you mean logName" (the edit-distance suggestion from CAMEL-24666 already 
> exists in the catalog).
> * "route: property 'onException' is not defined in the schema" should add 
> that onException is a top-level entry, a sibling of route, and show a 
> five-line sample once CAMEL-24693 ships them.
> camel-yaml-dsl-validator already depends on camel-catalog, and the YAML DSL 
> model (CAMEL-24362) knows which entries are top-level and which nest where, 
> so this is a post-processing step over the networknt errors, no schema change.
> h3. Origin
> Rows 12 to 15 of the defects tally kept with the benchmark harness. Related: 
> CAMEL-24692, CAMEL-24693, CAMEL-24694, CAMEL-24695, CAMEL-24666, CAMEL-24362.



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