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Claus Ibsen resolved CAMEL-26797.
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    Resolution: Fixed

Merged in https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/29552 (3b8238f9ccfe).

_Claude Code on behalf of davsclaus_

> camel-chaos - an experiment does not pass while the route of its expectation 
> failed, and a lost expectation between two routes that are not a hand-off 
> warns
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>
>                 Key: CAMEL-26797
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-26797
>             Project: Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: camel-jbang
>            Reporter: Claus Ibsen
>            Assignee: Claus Ibsen
>            Priority: Major
>             Fix For: 4.24.0
>
>
> Found in a run of {{camel cmd chaos-explore}} (CAMEL-26760) on the chaos 
> example (apache/camel-jbang-examples#134, which adds a refunds route that 
> calls the payment service over HTTP).
> The model wrote {{expect=refunds->payment:lost<=0}} for "refunds handles a 
> 503 from payment", and the experiment passed while 7 refunds failed:
> # {{a->b:lost}} counts the messages route a completed that route b did not 
> complete (CAMEL-26726). That only means something for a hand-off (orders 
> hands to shipping over seda). Refunds does not hand off to payment: it calls 
> it and waits, so a 503 fails the refund in refunds, and a failed exchange is 
> not counted by lost at all. Payment also answered the orders (13 completed in 
> refunds, 57 in payment), so the expectation was 0 lost by construction.
> # The experiment then had faults that fired, a met expectation, and a route 
> with messages, so it passed. The 7 failures were only listed under "also 
> failed, in no expectation".
> The playbook already says to use {{->lost}} only for the hand-offs the 
> suggestions name; a small model does not always follow it (an earlier run had 
> the same mistake). So, as with the other checks of CAMEL-26790:
> * Adding a rule with {{a->b:lost}} where route a does not hand messages to 
> route b (seda, vm, disruptor) warns, and says that {{expect=a:failed<=0}} 
> counts what fails in a.
> * An experiment whose expectation is about a route that failed exchanges that 
> no expectation of it counts is INCONCLUSIVE, not PASS, with the reason and 
> the expectation that counts them.
> _Claude Code on behalf of Claus Ibsen_



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