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Knut-Håvard Aksnes updated CAMEL-7525:
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    Description: 
 We do use the file component to read files from a particular area. We pick up 
new files from there using their content as basis for a database import. There 
are a couple of important points:
 # We must not add or delete files to the area we read from, not even 
temporarily.
 # We need to pick up files once.

To achive this we use noop=true as well as a file based idempotentRepository 
where the repository is placed in a different location. We also use 
readLock=changed which is the big problem.  To cite the component documentation:
Notice from Camel 2.10 onwards the read locks changed, fileLock and rename will 
also use a markerFile as well, to ensure not picking up files that may be in 
process by another Camel consumer running on another node (eg cluster).

This is a huge problem as I can't find any documented way of storing the marker 
files in a different location.  What is really needed is something similar to 
inProgressRepository as an option to keep track of the readLock related 
information. Alternatively an option to disable the marker files could be 
created, this option could however lead to failure if applications are 
clustered.

This problem is for us serious breakage, as there are other applications not 
under our control reading the same areas, some of these crashes due to the 
marker files.

  was:
 We do use the file component to read files from a particular area. We pick up 
new files from there using their content as basis for a database import. There 
are a couple of important points:
 # We must not add or delete files to the area we read from, not even 
temporarily.
 # We need to pick up files once.

To achive this we use noop=true as well as a file based idempotentRepository 
where the repository is placed in a different location. We also use 
readLock=changed which is the big problem.  To cite the component documentation:
Notice from Camel 2.10 onwards the read locks changed, fileLock and rename will 
also use a markerFile as well, to ensure not picking up files that may be in 
process by another Camel consumer running on another node (eg cluster).

This is a huge problem as I can't find any documented way of storing the marker 
files in a different location.  What is really needed is something similar to 
inProgressRepository as an option to keep track of the readLock related 
information.

This problem is for us serious breakage, as there are other applications not 
under our control reading the same areas, some of these crashes due to the 
marker files.

Alternatively an option to disable the marker files, this option could however 
lead to failure if applications are clustered.


> Behavior change for file component in 2.10 causes problems with no workaround 
> available
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>
>                 Key: CAMEL-7525
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-7525
>             Project: Camel
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Knut-Håvard Aksnes
>
>  We do use the file component to read files from a particular area. We pick 
> up new files from there using their content as basis for a database import. 
> There are a couple of important points:
>  # We must not add or delete files to the area we read from, not even 
> temporarily.
>  # We need to pick up files once.
> To achive this we use noop=true as well as a file based idempotentRepository 
> where the repository is placed in a different location. We also use 
> readLock=changed which is the big problem.  To cite the component 
> documentation:
> Notice from Camel 2.10 onwards the read locks changed, fileLock and rename 
> will also use a markerFile as well, to ensure not picking up files that may 
> be in process by another Camel consumer running on another node (eg cluster).
> This is a huge problem as I can't find any documented way of storing the 
> marker files in a different location.  What is really needed is something 
> similar to inProgressRepository as an option to keep track of the readLock 
> related information. Alternatively an option to disable the marker files 
> could be created, this option could however lead to failure if applications 
> are clustered.
> This problem is for us serious breakage, as there are other applications not 
> under our control reading the same areas, some of these crashes due to the 
> marker files.



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