blublinsky commented on a change in pull request #8402: [FLINK-12473][ml] Add 
the interface of ML pipeline and ML lib
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/8402#discussion_r285695555
 
 

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+package org.apache.flink.ml.api.core;
+
+import org.apache.flink.ml.api.misc.param.ParamInfo;
+import org.apache.flink.ml.api.misc.param.WithParams;
+import org.apache.flink.ml.api.misc.persist.Persistable;
+import org.apache.flink.ml.util.param.ExtractParamInfosUtil;
+import org.apache.flink.ml.util.persist.MLStageFactory;
+
+import com.google.gson.Gson;
+import com.google.gson.JsonObject;
+
+import java.io.Serializable;
+import java.util.HashMap;
+import java.util.List;
+import java.util.Map;
+
+/**
+ * Base class for a stage in a pipeline. The interface is only a concept, and 
does not have any
+ * actual functionality. Its subclasses must be either Estimator or 
Transformer. No other classes
+ * should inherit this interface directly.
+ *
+ * <p>Each pipeline stage is with parameters and meanwhile persistable.
+ *
+ * @param <T> The class type of the PipelineStage implementation itself, used 
by {@link
+ *            org.apache.flink.ml.api.misc.param.WithParams}
+ * @see WithParams
+ */
+interface PipelineStage<T extends PipelineStage<T>> extends WithParams<T>, 
Serializable,
+               Persistable {
+
+       default String toJson() {
 
 Review comment:
   There are a few questions here:
   1. I think ML and serving will require 2 separate instances of Flink. ML is 
mostly batch, while Serving can be either batch or streaming. I think such 
separation should be very explicit in the overall design. Although 
theoretically it is possible to use ML to update the model directly, such a use 
case is not going to be a dominant one.
   2. If we agree on this, there are 2 reasons to export the model - here model 
is really a pipeline. It is used for continue learning and serving. Continue 
learning, in this case means that I have new data and I want to start from 
where I left off parameters wise. For this, current persistence implementation 
might be fine. For serving, it is probably not. You want to to make sure that 
serving can be done either in Flink or in a standalone Java app, for example. 
Tensorflow is trying to use the same format for both, but I do not see a big 
problem separating the two. For serving you might want to try to stick with one 
of the existing standards to avoid writing your own evaluator.
   3. For export, I like the separation of the exporter from pipelines (see 
https://openscoring.io/blog/2018/07/09/converting_sparkml_pipeline_pmml/). In 
this case you can roll out additional exporters without modifying the existing 
code. Actually using the same approach for persistence allows for more 
flexibility as well 
    

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