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Yangze Guo commented on FLINK-15031:
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Regarding the waste of network buffers, I think it might not be a critical
issue.
IIUC, in the previous coarse-grained approach, for a given amount of floating
buffers and a job, there will be a theoretical minimum network memory size with
which we can prevent the deadlock. User needs to tune the network memory until
it is larger than that value. However, most users will not take much effort to
find that value in practice. So this kind of waste is actually widespread and
might be more severe in the coarse-grained approach.
In the fine-grained approach, the waste of network buffers has an upper bound
and users can tune the amount of floating buffers to make a trade-off between
performance and resource utilization. There is no need to tune the network
memory size again.
All in all, that should be explicitly explained in the user docs.
> Calculate required shuffle memory before allocating slots if resources are
> specified
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>
> Key: FLINK-15031
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-15031
> Project: Flink
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Runtime / Coordination
> Affects Versions: 1.10.0
> Reporter: Zhu Zhu
> Assignee: Zhu Zhu
> Priority: Major
> Labels: pull-request-available
> Fix For: 1.12.0
>
> Time Spent: 10m
> Remaining Estimate: 0h
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> In cases where resources are specified, we expect each operator to declare
> required resources before using them. In this way, no resource related error
> should happen if resources are not used beyond what was declared. This
> ensures a deployed task would not fail due to insufficient resources in TM,
> which may result in unnecessary failures and may even cause a job hanging
> forever, failing repeatedly on deploying tasks to a TM with insufficient
> resources.
> Shuffle memory is the last missing piece for this goal at the moment. Minimum
> network buffers are required by tasks to work. Currently a task is possible
> to be deployed to a TM with insufficient network buffers, and fails on
> launching.
> To avoid that, we should calculate required network memory for a
> task/SlotSharingGroup before allocating a slot for it.
> The required shuffle memory can be derived from the number of required
> network buffers. The number of buffers required by a task (ExecutionVertex) is
> {code:java}
> exclusive buffers for input channels(i.e. numInputChannel *
> buffersPerChannel) + required buffers for result partition buffer
> pool(currently is numberOfSubpartitions + 1)
> {code}
> Note that this is for the {{NettyShuffleService}} case. For custom shuffle
> services, currently there is no way to get the required shuffle memory of a
> task.
> To make it simple under dynamic slot sharing, the required shuffle memory for
> a task should be the max required shuffle memory of all {{ExecutionVertex}}
> of the same {{ExecutionJobVertex}}. And the required shuffle memory for a
> slot sharing group should be the sum of shuffle memory for each
> {{ExecutionJobVertex}} instance within.
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