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Zhu Zhu commented on FLINK-15031:
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Thanks for reviving this discussion!
This improvement is necessary for fine-grained jobs and can benefit users a lot.
Regarding whether to include floating buffers in announced network memory, my
main concern is that it is possible to result in doubled network memory
requirement. It can be a pain point for resource-sensitive users, especially
for large scale jobs which would require terabytes of network memory.
I'm thinking maybe we can introduce a fraction style config option which
indicates the percentage of floating buffer memory to be included in the
announced network memory. If it is 0.0, job will run with minimum required
network memory and issue of FLINK-12852 may happen more frequently. If it is
1.0, doubled network memory will be required and issue of FLINK-12852 can be
avoided.
> Automatically calculate required network memory for fine-grained jobs
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> Key: FLINK-15031
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-15031
> Project: Flink
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Runtime / Coordination
> Affects Versions: 1.10.0
> Reporter: Zhu Zhu
> Assignee: Jin Xing
> Priority: Major
> Labels: pull-request-available
> Fix For: 1.12.0
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> Time Spent: 10m
> Remaining Estimate: 0h
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> In cases where resources are specified, we expect each operator to declare
> required resources before using them. In this way, no resource related error
> should happen if resources are not used beyond what was declared. This
> ensures a deployed task would not fail due to insufficient resources in TM,
> which may result in unnecessary failures and may even cause a job hanging
> forever, failing repeatedly on deploying tasks to a TM with insufficient
> resources.
> Shuffle memory is the last missing piece for this goal at the moment. Minimum
> network buffers are required by tasks to work. Currently a task is possible
> to be deployed to a TM with insufficient network buffers, and fails on
> launching.
> To avoid that, we should calculate required network memory for a
> task/SlotSharingGroup before allocating a slot for it.
> The required shuffle memory can be derived from the number of required
> network buffers. The number of buffers required by a task (ExecutionVertex) is
> {code:java}
> exclusive buffers for input channels(i.e. numInputChannel *
> buffersPerChannel) + required buffers for result partition buffer
> pool(currently is numberOfSubpartitions + 1)
> {code}
> Note that this is for the {{NettyShuffleService}} case. For custom shuffle
> services, currently there is no way to get the required shuffle memory of a
> task.
> To make it simple under dynamic slot sharing, the required shuffle memory for
> a task should be the max required shuffle memory of all {{ExecutionVertex}}
> of the same {{ExecutionJobVertex}}. And the required shuffle memory for a
> slot sharing group should be the sum of shuffle memory for each
> {{ExecutionJobVertex}} instance within.
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