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JJJJude edited comment on FLINK-29625 at 5/14/24 10:21 AM:
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Hi [~jiabao.sun], I encountered the same problem, see discuss: 
[https://github.com/apache/flink-cdc/pull/1907#issuecomment-2105588522|http://example.com/]

I hope that the optimization of *_ChangelogNormalize_* can be disabled by 
option, because in the CDC multi-stream join scenario, *_UPDATE_BEFORE(-U)_* 
will emit *-D/+I* after passing through the _*JOIN*_ operator and be passed to 
the downstream. *-D* will it to be used as a dimension table. Associated to the 
middle state _*NULL*_


was (Author: wczhu):
Hi [~jiabao.sun], I encountered the same problem, see discuss: 
[https://github.com/apache/flink-cdc/pull/1907#issuecomment-2105588522|http://example.com/]

I hope that the optimization of ??ChangelogNormalize?? can be disabled by 
option, because in the CDC multi-stream join scenario, ??UPDATE_BEFORE??(-U) 
will emit *-D/+I* after passing through the ??JOIN?? operator and be passed to 
the downstream. *-D* will it to be used as a dimension table. Associated to the 
middle state ??NULL??

> Optimize changelog normalize for upsert source
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: FLINK-29625
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29625
>             Project: Flink
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Table SQL / Planner
>    Affects Versions: 1.15.3
>            Reporter: jiabao.sun
>            Priority: Major
>
> Currently, Flink will add an expensive operator _changelog normalize_ to the 
> source of the upsert changelog mode to complete the _update_before_ value. 
> Even inserting directly from upsert-kafka source to upsert-kafka sink will 
> still add this operator, and there is an extra operator to clear 
> _upsert_before_ messages, which is obviously redundant.
> In CDC scenarios, some databases do not provide update before images, such as 
> Cassandra、MongoDB、TiDB({_}Old Value{_} is not turned on) and Postgres 
> ({_}REPLICA IDENTITY{_} is not set to {_}FULL{_}). Using Flink SQL to process 
> these changelog will have a lot of state overhead.
> I don't know much about why this operator is needed, so I take the liberty to 
> ask if we can get rid of changelog normalize completely or optimistic about 
> it, adding it only if a normalized changelog is required by a downstream 
> operator.
> If this optimization is worthwhile, I'm happy to help with it.



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