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Gyula Fora commented on FLINK-35285:
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"always act" would only make sense if we disable key group alignment. If there 
is a setting for this and you turn it off then it's fine.

The system should {+}*never*{+}:
 - Scale to a parallelism below the required throughout

The system should probably never disregard an explicit config setting like 
scaling factor so that it "can act". If the user config prevents scaling then 
it's fine as it's intentionally set by the user.

One possible way to resolve the current situation without violating fundamental 
constraints of the system is to actually allow scaling slightly below the 
target parallelism as long as we are within the flexible boundaries. So if 
target utilization is 50% and the utilization boundary is 30% then any 
parallelism could be acceptable within  (20-80). This may help in your 
particular case but can also lead to parallelism fluctuations

> Autoscaler key group optimization can interfere with scale-down.max-factor
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: FLINK-35285
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-35285
>             Project: Flink
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Kubernetes Operator
>            Reporter: Trystan
>            Priority: Minor
>
> When setting a less aggressive scale down limit, the key group optimization 
> can prevent a vertex from scaling down at all. It will hunt from target 
> upwards to maxParallelism/2, and will always find currentParallelism again.
>  
> A simple test trying to scale down from a parallelism of 60 with a 
> scale-down.max-factor of 0.2:
> {code:java}
> assertEquals(48, JobVertexScaler.scale(60, inputShipStrategies, 360, .8, 8, 
> 360)); {code}
>  
> It seems reasonable to make a good attempt to spread data across subtasks, 
> but not at the expense of total deadlock. The problem is that during scale 
> down it doesn't actually ensure that newParallelism will be < 
> currentParallelism. The only workaround is to set a scale down factor large 
> enough such that it finds the next lowest divisor of the maxParallelism.
>  
> Clunky, but something to ensure it can make at least some progress. There is 
> another test that now fails, but just to illustrate the point:
> {code:java}
> for (int p = newParallelism; p <= maxParallelism / 2 && p <= upperBound; p++) 
> {
>     if ((scaleFactor < 1 && p < currentParallelism) || (scaleFactor > 1 && p 
> > currentParallelism)) {
>         if (maxParallelism % p == 0) {
>             return p;
>         }
>     }
> } {code}
>  
> Perhaps this is by design and not a bug, but total failure to scale down in 
> order to keep optimized key groups does not seem ideal.
>  
> Key group optimization block:
> [https://github.com/apache/flink-kubernetes-operator/blob/fe3d24e4500d6fcaed55250ccc816546886fd1cf/flink-autoscaler/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/autoscaler/JobVertexScaler.java#L296C1-L303C10]



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