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> srl wrote:
>
> > Talking about gender and sex as non-binary conditions seems useful to
> > me--- that's why i suggest this. I think that a lot of the problems geeks
> > face could be talked about in terms of gender.
> >
> > For example: Male geeks often face pressure because they aren't [usually]
> > the "jock-guy" gender, and female geeks get pressure because they aren't
> > [usually] the "cheerleader" gender.
> >
> > Does that make sense to anyone else?
>
> yes, it does. But I have a struggle figuring out what gender I am if you
> split it up this much. I know I'm female, but other than that the best
> I can manage is 'I'm me'.
>
> Jenn V.
> --
>   Humans are the only species to feed and house entirely separate species
>      for no reason other than the pleasure of their company. Why?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Jenn Vesperman        http://www.simegen.com/~jenn/
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To me itt makes a lot of sense...When in high school, there was no real place
for budding or deven deveopled geeks. If you ghad glasses, you were "four
eyes". Geek and nerd type wee roubdly put down. To tthis day I think gym are
evil and won'rt contribute money for a new gym..There has got be a awat to get
exercise withoug that sort of stuff.

ANd by the way that in my experience is where all those "penis jokes" start,
often adided and abbeted by coaches. Many male coaches (this was awhile ago)
actually helped inculcate the standard ideas about women and whate they were
good for, usually only one thing. Weird thing is they almost all had wives.

ANy female who was attractive in the standard mold, was pushed or almost
dreagged inro cheerleading. Now in a sports charged area. I obseve it starts
early like 5th grade, Althihg thanks ro title IX there are girls in "real
spports: and female basketabll and baseball players get almost as much press as
guys.

It hasn't quirte got here that being a "geek" is a real thing. Geek and nerd
are still insult terms. Thought this being a poor areas computers=$$$ is slowly
starting to snink in.
Personal Note: In high school Dramatics was fun escape routre for me in the las
2years.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve





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