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David Smiley commented on SOLR-10229:
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While I'm still a believer in the ideas above (tests that declare/create needed 
schema elements dynamically), maybe the problem (zillion test configs) cold be 
solved in another way.

A far more achievable approach, that is a bit less aggressive is as follows:  
declare a particular solrconfig & schema as a default test config that has only 
a handful of statically declared fields but quite a few dynamic field patterns. 
 Most/all of the schema would actually be in a separate file included via 
{{<xi:include ... />}} file (you can see this technique used in some tests 
already).  Most tests would then be reworked to use the default test schema.  
If the test needs a specific field type that doesn't seem appropriate to put in 
the default test schema, then it'd go into a schema.xml specific for the test 
but it would xi:include the defaults so that the file only has what's 
particular to this test.

It's a lot of work but so is the previous proposal, and both could be done 
test-by-test.  A nice additional benefit is that it'd result in more test 
harmonization -- using suffixes that become commonly known amongst us as to 
what the configuration means, as opposed to needless test-specific names that 
sometimes could have been a common dynamic field.

> See what it would take to shift many of our one-off schemas used for testing 
> to managed schema and construct them as part of the tests
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-10229
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-10229
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Erick Erickson
>            Assignee: Erick Erickson
>            Priority: Minor
>         Attachments: SOLR-10229-straw-man.patch, SOLR-10229.patch, 
> SOLR-10229.patch, SOLR-10229.patch, SOLR-10229.patch, SOLR-10229.patch, 
> SOLR-10229.patch, SOLR-10229.patch, SOLR-10229.patch
>
>
> The test schema files are intimidating. There are about a zillion of them, 
> and making a change in any of them risks breaking some _other_ test. That 
> leaves people three choices:
> 1> add what they need to some existing schema. Which makes schemas bigger and 
> bigger and bigger.
> 2> create a new schema file, adding to the proliferation thereof.
> 3> Look through all the existing tests to see if they have something that 
> works.
> The recent work on LUCENE-7705 is a case in point. We're adding a maxLen 
> parameter to some tokenizers. Putting those parameters into any of the 
> existing schemas, especially to test < 255 char tokens is virtually 
> guaranteed to break other tests, so the only safe thing to do is make another 
> schema file. Adding to the multiplication of files.
> As part of SOLR-5260 I tried creating the schema on the fly rather than 
> creating a new static schema file and it's not hard. WDYT about making this 
> into some better thought-out utility? 
> At present, this is pretty fuzzy, I wanted to get some reactions before 
> putting much effort into it. I expect that the utility methods would 
> eventually get a bunch of canned types. It's reasonably straightforward for 
> primitive types, if lengthy. But when you get into solr.TextField-based types 
> it gets less straight-forward.
> We could manage to just move the "intimidation" from the plethora of schema 
> files to a zillion fieldTypes in the utility to choose from...
> Also, forcing every test to define the fields up-front is arguably less 
> convenient than just having _some_ canned schemas we can use. And erroneous 
> schemas to test failure modes are probably not very good fits for any such 
> framework.
> [~steve_rowe] and [[email protected]] in particular might have 
> something to say.



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