gnodet commented on pull request #619:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/619#issuecomment-977911831


   > From [sisu 
doco](https://www.eclipse.org/sisu/docs/tutorials/index.html#go): "If you're 
interested in what Sisu is doing you can turn on tracing with -Dsisu.debug"
   
   Again, the problem is not to find a way to raise sisu log.  The problem was 
to actually find what the problem was.  I had no idea that the problem came 
from sisu at all and I could not imagine that a NoClassDefFoundError was simply 
logged at _trace_ level.  Trace is not meant to display exceptions, but rather 
very fine grained info.  Such problems should at least be logged at _debug_ 
level, hence appearing with the standard `-X` option.  Anything useful should 
at least happen here.
   
   I also faced a problem recently where an extension was not working in some 
environment.  I kinda abandoned debugging it (because debugging was not 
possible), but I now suspect that it was the same kind of issue which was not 
printed at debug level.
   
   I do agree we have tons of ways to raise specific loggers level.  The goal 
here is to have a simple option that will at least display possible problems 
without having to know which log level you need to raise or even that you need 
to raise one.  Any suggestion that provides such a workaround relies on the 
user understanding where the problem is, which is what I'm trying to help him 
finding.


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