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ASF GitHub Bot commented on MNG-8141:
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jgneff commented on PR #1568:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/1568#issuecomment-2155213002

   Thank you, Tamás. On the one hand, I agree that it might be better to issue 
a warning in version 3.9.8 instead of no warning in version 3.9.6 and an 
unexplained build failure in version 3.9.7. On the other hand, the warnings 
issued by the Maven Assembly Plugin were [ignored by the JavaFX 
project](https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2024-May/047292.html) 
and the publishers of its artifacts for three years and were only fixed when 
the builds of all JavaFX applications began to fail. So what will Maven 4.0 do 
in this case?




> Model Builder should report if not sure about "fully correct" outcome
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: MNG-8141
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-8141
>             Project: Maven
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Core
>            Reporter: Tamas Cservenak
>            Assignee: Tamas Cservenak
>            Priority: Major
>             Fix For: 4.0.0, 3.9.8, 4.0.0-beta-4
>
>
> ModelBuilder is component building models (POM + interpolating + parent 
> inheritance and many many more things), but it should not rely that built 
> model "was validated", as it MAY NOT been validated: for "furthest" models it 
> builds, like a parent of a some-level-dependency we use MIN level of 
> validation (minimal validation).
> Still, while the model builder builds, it relies on several aspects of the 
> model, and it should ensure that the "output" (built model) is correct. Model 
> Builder hence must be changed in way, that IF it detects any issue _during 
> building_ of the model, and IF it appears with even slightest possibility 
> that it cannot deliver "correct output", it must add WARNs to model building 
> result with proper messages.
> One typical case is when model building injects activated profiles (as they 
> can deliver properties and extra plugins and what not) and activation code 
> detects a "problem", like for example duplicated profile IDs being used (this 
> IS catched by validation, but not on MIN level!), hence, model builder cannot 
> guarantee that built model IS correct.
> This change is really only to make Maven emit WARNINGs if project being built 
> has some "far POMs" (like parent pom of a dependency of a first level 
> dependency, as in reproducer). If model builder cannot be "100% sure" it 
> built model correctly, it should be reported. Moreover, WARNs of model 
> building result were simply neglected so fat (lost). Having warnings like 
> these would reveal "invalid parent POM" early, as it is case in issue 
> MNG-8131 for example.



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