https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3959
--- Comment #220 from LSr <[email protected]> --- > > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 jcartland > <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CC| |[email protected] --- Comment #209 from jcartland > <[email protected]> --- I've come to the conclusion that Open Office is > simply a tool for document formatting. It's good for that. As a writer's > tool, it's even less useful than MS Office. For actual writing, working with > thoughts and words, I've currently settled on a workflow of: - Freeplane, for > brain-storming and mind-mapping - Scrivener, for outlining and composition. - > an assortment of tools to format the work product Scrivener is one of the few > pieces of proprietary software that I use and respect. It can import > mind-maps and export into a variety of formats. Open/Libre Office can be > useful in formatting Scrivener output for a printed document, but mostly I > use Sigil and Calibre. Now, I'm going to stop following this discussion, it > doesn't seem very productive. I can confirm jcartland's experience. We have been using Outliners since the DOS days. I have dumped SO, OO & LO on all our Win, Mac & Linux machines, because we need outlining tools. We used Pages on Mac and also tried OmniOutline. Pages messes up formatting when documents get more than 3 levels deep and over 10,000 words in it's M$-Style outline mode. Been using Word on Linux with wine and even Windows in VirtualBox with only Word installed for outlining. We also used Word on Mac till very recently, and found that one starts loosing the oversight in the 6-9 levels of large documents, let alone master and sub-documents with outlines. We discovered Scrivener for Mac (also works on Win) two weeks ago. This is a professional tool. It needs a little time getting the hang of it, but there are many How-To's on YouTube for it to get going in about an hour. I am prepared to pay the $39 for it. I do not have time for this pathetic religiosity in the pro-contra Outliner discussions started by those who never used Outliners, exposing themselves through their ignorant responses for all to see by suggestion things like explorer and mind mapping tools for serious writing. We have to deliver technical academic documents without having to mess around with silly tools made for writing single page letters and simple stuff like that. We hav given up the hope we had in the OO project. I support FOSS and contributed financially to some good applications. I just can't support engineers (I'm one too) that have the attitude, that I had to unlearn, that they know what the customer needs and will only give him/her what they think is right. They usually go under with their dying projects; so move on to professional stuff for little money like Scrivener. Oliver-Rainer Wittmann, I wish you all the best if you can get this off the ground. But with colleagues like [email protected], you will have a tough time to get support - you may be on your own .... if I could code, I would help you all the way. Cheers and have fun with your attitude "[email protected]" ... actually you are just causing troll flame bait. If only we could be sure you and other religiously 'I have the truth' contributors would heed to jljovano's comments, we could get a constructive environment for Oliver-Rainer Wittmann to enjoy the task ahead. To Quote jcartland: " Now, I'm going to stop following this discussion, it doesn't seem very productive." ... Pity for the OO community to be buckled down by such mono-dimensional attitudes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
