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--- Comment #152 from jesperjuul <[email protected]> ---
Kay, please reopen this issue. I understand that you are being helpful, but
please educate yourself on the use cases and reasons why this issue is not
resolved. I have an explanation below.

As stated elsewhere, every word processor in the last 30 years have had a
"normal" mode that keeps page numbering and line width, but does not show white
space between pages, headers, footers and such (given that they interfere with
editing). 

This is what abiword has, word perfect, google docs. This is the "normal view"
in Word. It is only Openoffice that lacks this feature.

To compare: Word has 1) "print layout" mode which is WYSIWYG, 2) "Web view"
which has no notion of pages or line widths, and 3) "Normal view" which removes
headers, footers, and spaces between pages but retains page numbers. OPENOFFICE
DOES NOT HAVE THIS MODE!

Why is Normal View important?
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A lot of people (authors, journalists) edit very long documents for a long
time, and these documents are then later typeset, often by someone else. This
means that:
1) Page layout is irrelevant. It gets in the way, and it is as satisfying as it
would be to program in "print preview" mode - it would be nonsense.

2) Page numbers and counts are still relevant, given that we are often
targeting specific lengths, and that we need to be able to discuss particular
pages with editors and layouters.

3) We still need easy access to footnotes, so footnotes cannot simply be tucked
away at the end of a 150 page document.

4) We do navigate visually and care about the shape of the individual
paragraphs, so we want the line width to be constant, and not a function of
window size.

Hence normal view.


PS. I suspect the confusion comes because many people (often programmers) do
not really use a word processor for anything longer than a 2-page letter, hence
they really use them as lightweight layout programs. But professional writers
actually do use word processors for text editing.

(In reply to Kay from comment #146)
> For me in 4.1.1, Linux-32, the View menu seems to control this aspect.
> 
> Currently, it seems the default "view" is Print Layout, so when I open a
> document the view I see is "pages"  -- margins, page indications, etc. If I
> untoggle this button from the "View" menu, I see a layout without any print
> type formatting -- straight text, no margins defined, no indications of page
> bottoms etc.
> 
> So, from my POV this has been "fixed" and thus changing this to
> RESOLVED-FIXED. I do not have an actual revision number to document this.
> 
> If someone still thinks there is an issue, please reopen and provide some
> additional information.

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