https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3959

--- Comment #264 from ther <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to Grisemine from comment #260)
> @ther, you are still doing nothing good here. 
> 

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3959#c238

As the second decade since this "bug" approaches, why as the m$ clone fans
unable to organise, pay programmers to make this "bug" top priority and make
the function a reality.

The fact is, for gratis, the majority of programmers see no value in the time
required to produce this function. Suggestion? Substitute your m$ licence fee
to pay for the development. To clarify, not a programmer, therefore no conflict
of interest in the suggestion.

> May you please answer me : "why do you keep talking here about something you
> do not want and clearly do not understand ?"
> 
> Now it is "copy your text to a code editor (losing all your formattings ?)
> and then fold/unfold as you like, and then back to Writer (put back all
> formatting ?)
> It is just PLAIN STUPID, it seems you never used a word processor in real
> life, for anything longer than a letter !
> 

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions.
(In reply to Scott Kallen from comment #261)
> (In reply to ther from comment #257)
> 
> > If you have the flexibility of mind to change from m$, you should have
> > similar mental flexibility to adjust away from the m$ concept of outline
> > view.
> 
> At issue is not whether or not we can use some alternate method of doing
> outlines.  It's that while m$ Word has many faults, it does this one thing
> extremely efficiently and well.  The ease of use of the Outline view is, in
> my opinion, second to none.
> 
> You sound like Steve Jobs when people complained about the faulty antenna
> years back, and his answer was "You're holding it wrong."  You comment
> indicates I should just change the way I want to work because OO doesn't
> support it.  If that's not the cart before the horse, I don't know what is.
> 
> > Easily achievable in many text editors such as jedit, or mind map such as
> > freeplane.
> > 
> > You can achieve outline function in jedit, use version control and make
> > final formatting in writer by simple copy of text from text editor to 
> > writer.
> 
> Really?  That's your proposed solution?  This is a forum for Open Office not
> jedit or some other Rube-Goldbergesque workflow.  No one is debating whether
> or not you can do all sorts of things to create an outline and stuff it into
> Writer.
> 
> This thread is begging for a clean, straightforward and easy-to-use Outline
> mode.  We all cite Microsoft (oh, sorry, I forgot to be pegorative) M$ Word
> not because we love M$ or Word.  But because that particular feature of Word
> seems to be one of the best, if not the best, implementation of an outliner
> integrated seamlessly into a powerful Word Processor.
> 
> This is what those of us voting for this *ALL* want to see.

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