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Pierre Salagnac commented on SOLR-14927:
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Running Solr with the overseer disabled was already implemented.
If you mean fully remove the old code of the overseer, I don't think we are 
ready for that. See [this 
thread|https://lists.apache.org/thread/mmkjglr347jqz7f4kslzzpmzvgslmcbz]. There 
is no proof yet Solr can run at scale with the overseer disabled, mostly with 
very big collections.

> Remove Overseer
> ---------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-14927
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14927
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: SolrCloud
>            Reporter: Ilan Ginzburg
>            Assignee: Ilan Ginzburg
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: cluster, collection-api, overseer, solrcloud, zookeeper
>
> This Jira is intended to capture sub jiras on the path to remove the Overseer 
> component from SolrCloud and move to all nodes being able to do the work 
> currently done by Overseer.
> See detailed description in [this 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u4QHsIHuIxlglIW6hekYlXGNOP0HjLGVX5N6inkj6Ok/].
> Copying (edited) from the above doc:
> The motivation for removing Overseer include:
>  * Mono threaded state change is slow and doesn’t scale,
>  * Communication between cluster nodes and the Overseer use Zookeeper as a 
> queueing mechanism, this is not a good idea,
>  * Nodes talking to Overseer (then Overseer talking to itself) via Zookeeper 
> is inefficient and adds latency,
>  * Collection API scalability is poor, because not only a single node 
> processes commands for all Collections, but it also depends on the mono 
> threaded state change queue consumption,
>  * The code supporting Overseer in SolrCloud is complex (election, queue 
> management, recovery etc).
> The general idea is that there’s already a central point in the SolrCloud 
> cluster and it’s Zookeeper. It might not be necessary to have a second 
> central point (Overseer) because nodes can interact directly with Zookeeper 
> and synchronize more efficiently by optimistic locking using “conditional 
> updates” (a.k.a compare and swap or CAS).
>  



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