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Weihua Jiang commented on SPARK-2044:
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Hi Matei,

Some quick comments:
1. Is it a goal to support more kind of shuffle: e.g. moving sort from reducer 
to mapper? If yes, it seems it is better to add additional flag to 
shuffleManager. I find similar statements in page 3 
??When the shuffle has no Aggregator (i.e. null or None is passed in), keys and 
values are simply sent across the network. Optionally we might allow the 
ShuffleManager to specify whether keys read from a ShuffleReader are sorted, or 
add a flag to registerShuffle that requests this for keys that have an 
Ordering. This would simplify grouping operators downstream (e.g. cogroup).??
Does this mean that ordering is an inherit property of input data or it wants 
ShuffleManager to perform sorting for the data?
2. Is it a goal to support prefetch of map data at reducer side?
3. for ShuffleReader, why only partition range is allowed? How about extend 
this API to support multiple indididual partitions? For example, if reducer 
knows that partitions 1,3,5 are ready while 2,4,6 are not, reducer can fetch 
1,3,5 at first. Instead of making 3 calls of getReader, making one call can 
reduce mapper side disk seek operations, e.g. if partitions 3,5 are on 
continous on one node.
4. I am not sure whether such a partition list or range shall return one reader 
instance or mulitple ones.


> Pluggable interface for shuffles
> --------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SPARK-2044
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-2044
>             Project: Spark
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Shuffle, Spark Core
>            Reporter: Matei Zaharia
>            Assignee: Matei Zaharia
>         Attachments: Pluggableshuffleproposal.pdf
>
>
> Given that a lot of the current activity in Spark Core is in shuffles, I 
> wanted to propose factoring out shuffle implementations in a way that will 
> make experimentation easier. Ideally we will converge on one implementation, 
> but for a while, this could also be used to have several implementations 
> coexist. I'm suggesting this because I aware of at least three efforts to 
> look at shuffle (from Yahoo!, Intel and Databricks). Some of the things 
> people are investigating are:
> * Push-based shuffle where data moves directly from mappers to reducers
> * Sorting-based instead of hash-based shuffle, to create fewer files (helps a 
> lot with file handles and memory usage on large shuffles)
> * External spilling within a key
> * Changing the level of parallelism or even algorithm for downstream stages 
> at runtime based on statistics of the map output (this is a thing we had 
> prototyped in the Shark research project but never merged in core)
> I've attached a design doc with a proposed interface. It's not too crazy 
> because the interface between shuffles and the rest of the code is already 
> pretty narrow (just some iterators for reading data and a writer interface 
> for writing it). Bigger changes will be needed in the interaction with 
> DAGScheduler and BlockManager for some of the ideas above, but we can handle 
> those separately, and this interface will allow us to experiment with some 
> short-term stuff sooner.
> If things go well I'd also like to send a sort-based shuffle implementation 
> for 1.1, but we'll see how the timing on that works out.



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