davoustp commented on pull request #504:
URL: https://github.com/apache/struts/pull/504#issuecomment-968036028


   > Thanks for producing this PR in response to the JIRA issue. 👍 
   
   My pleasure, that's normal to contribute back when we find something useful 
for the community (OSS rocks).
   
   > Looking at the history of OgnlUtil (as far back as I can see in the 
repository), it looks like the logic considered an expression "valid" to put in 
the expression cache if-and-only-if it could be successfully executed. It seems 
like that may have been an intentional decision based on the original code 
comment ?
   
   Yep, that's my belief as well, the logic/behaviour is not documented, 
neither as a comment nor in commit history, so we're stuck in a guess game.
   
   > There may be a trade-off in execution performance (by allowing more 
expressions to be considered "valid" and cached) and memory utilization (due to 
the larger number of potential expressions now being cached).
   
   Very true, as with any caching strategy: you trade off CPU or latency 
against memory.
   
   > Having expressions considered "valid" if-and-only-if they can be executed 
successfully may have provided a limiting factor to keep the cache size more 
manageable in the past, but that is just my speculation.
   
   Definitely. However, I do think that this is a weird way to implement memory 
usage control.
   The problem I see is that the fact that an expression evaluates successfully 
or not does *not* depend on the expression itself, but on the context it's 
evaluated against.
   Such an expression may fail to execute 1000 times, and succeeds on the next 
attempt (because using a different context which allows the expression to 
evaluate successfully). So all in a sudden, the expression gets cached...
   All in all, the condition to cache a valid expression entirely depends onto 
the context we throw at it.
   Weird, isn't it?
   
   If we care about memory control, I would then rather go using a real cache 
with a proper eviction policy, such as https://github.com/ben-manes/caffeine (I 
use it a lot, it's rock stable, highly efficient and extremely flexible).
   This would allow to evict least frequently used expressions, which can even 
be balanced against its cost to build if needed. This could be bounded or not, 
time-based...
   (we'd need to check the minimum JDK version supported by Struts2, though, 
since caffeine requires JDK 8 minimum if I remember correctly)
   
   This way, any application generating a very large set of expressions would 
still get the benefit of caching for the more frequently used expressions 
without growing the cache too large. And expressions get cached irrespective of 
any evaluation result.
   
   A small set of configuration knobs might be required as well (to allow user 
control on cache retention duration, bounded/unbounded and upper bound if 
needed...).
   And going this way could only go into the 2.6.x branch of course.
   
   > This change may be safer to attempt for the 2.6.x branch (as opposed to PR 
#503 for 2.5.x), since it introduces a new behaviour for the expression cache.
   
   If we prefer keeping the changes low, yes, of course, we could have that 
change in 2.6.x only.
   


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