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Wilfred Spiegelenburg commented on YUNIKORN-1347:
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This is correct and a known issue with the plugin. I do not think we had a Jira 
for this yet.

Before we can pull the pod from the queue and prevent scheduling the default 
scheduler has already marked the pod as unschedulable. This has triggered the 
autoscaling. We do not want that to happen, however we currently do not have an 
option to prevent this from happening. This is a limitation of the default 
scheduling code.

We are working with the sig-scheduling team on KEP-3521: Pod Scheduling 
Readiness to fix this in one of the upcoming K8s releases. 

> Yunikorn triggers EKS auto-scaling even pods requests have exceeded the queue 
> limit 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: YUNIKORN-1347
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YUNIKORN-1347
>             Project: Apache YuniKorn
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: core - scheduler, shim - kubernetes
>            Reporter: Anthony Wu
>            Priority: Major
>
> Hi guys,
> We are trying to utilise Yunikorn to manage our AWS EKS infrastructure to 
> limit resource usage for different users and groups. We also use k8s cluster 
> auto-scaler 
> ([https://github.com/kubernetes/autoscaler/tree/master/cluster-autoscaler]) 
> for auto scaling of the cluster when necessary.
> *Environment*
>  * AWS EKS on k8s 1.21
>  * Yunikorn 1.1 running as k8s scheduler plugin to be most compatible
>  * cluster-autoscaler V1.21.0
> {*}Issues{*}:
> Let's say we have quene has be below limit
> {code:yaml}
> queues:               
> - name: dev
>   submitacl: "*"
>   resources: 
>     max: 
>       memory: 100Gi
>       vcore: 10 
> {code}
>  
> Then we try to create 4 pods in the `dev` queue each requires 5 cores and 
> 50Gi memory
> Then we are getting 2 pods {{Running}} and 2 pods {{{}Pending{}}}, because 
> the queue has reached its limit of 10Gi memory and 10 cpus.
> We would expect the queued pods to not triggering EKS auto scaling, as they 
> would not be able to be allocated until other resources have been release in 
> the queue.
> But what we see is that, the Queued pods still trigger the cluster 
> auto-scaling regardless. As shown in the example below:
> {code:java}
> Status:       Pending
> ...
> Conditions:
>   Type           Status
>   PodScheduled   False
> Events:
>   Type     Reason            Age    From                Message
>   ----     ------            ----   ----                -------
>   Warning  FailedScheduling  3m5s   yunikorn            0/147 nodes are 
> available: 147 Pod is not ready for scheduling.
>   Warning  FailedScheduling  3m5s   yunikorn            0/147 nodes are 
> available: 147 Pod is not ready for scheduling.
>   Normal   Scheduling        3m3s   yunikorn            
> yunikorn/dask-user-07ff5f3b-8qjkl8 is queued and waiting for allocation
>   Normal   TriggeredScaleUp  2m53s  cluster-autoscaler  pod triggered 
> scale-up: 
> [{eksctl-cluster-nodegroup-spot-xlarge-compute-1-NodeGroup-8VURTD4WKCYV 0->4 
> (max: 16)}]
> {code}
> So eventually, EKS auto-added some hosts but not actually been used and 
> allocated as the pods are not approved to be scheduled yet.
> We also tried Gang scheduling with the pods in a task group, but it is also 
> having similar issues: Even the whole gang is not ready to schedule, Yunikorn 
> creates the place-holder pods which triggers auto-scaling of EKS cluster
> *Causes and potential solutions*
> We tried to look at both source code in the auto-scaler and Yunikorn, and we 
> think the reason is just that the auto-scaler does not know about Yunikorn 
> specific events and state (Pending but not QuotaApproved) of a Pod. It 
> searches all the Pods with `PodScheduled=False` to then check whether it 
> needs to add resources for them.
> The issue could be resolved from both side:
>  - To solve from auto-scaler side, it needs to know the special events and 
> state of Yunikorn
>  - To solve from Yunikorn side, I think it needs to not create the pod or at 
> least not in `Pending` phase until it is quota approved 
>  ** not sure how hard to achieve this, but as long as a pod is created and it 
> goes to Pending then auto-scaler will try to pick it up
> We think solving it from Yunikron side would be cleaner, since auto-scaler 
> should not need to know the k8s scheduler implementation in order to make a 
> decision. Also there are other auto-scaler alternatives like AWS Karpenter 
> could suffers the same issue when interact with Yunikorn.
> Wondering whether this issue report make sense to you guys. Let us know if 
> there are any other solutions and whether it is possible to be solved in 
> future :)
> Thanks a lot!
>  



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