We're still trying to get clarification on what the client wants, from a client
that's not always clear on the distinction between an e-signature and a digital
signature. :) It's not a trivial question since some of the users of the
system are in remote areas with intermittent dialup access and we can't make a
design that quietly assumes urban broadband. Otherwise they'll just keep
stuffing paperwork into envelopes and the people who need the information will
get it days late.
I know that the original idea was just to provide some documents where we've
filled out the information that they and others have provided and just give
them a non-reputable way to click 'yes, I agree'. No other editing at all, and
each document would be unique (although using a common template for the static
content).
But knowing that we can return editable content (via FDF) opens some
possibilities. Or maybe not, since some directives are coming down to disable
javascript in the PDF readers. That's another thing we're trying to get
clarification on.
Bear
From: Leonard Rosenthol [mailto:lrose...@adobe.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:45 AM
To: Post all your questions about iText here
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Blank signable paper? RE: Client signature of FDF
1 - Depends on what you do with the document after it is "Reader Enabled" for
signing.
2 - Since a PDF signature is built around forms - be they AcroForms or
LiveCycle/XFA forms, there is SOME form involved..even if it's only a single
field for the sig.
3 - You can put the signature field on any page you want, but it signs the
ENTIRE document. And if you then merge in pages, the signature becomes
invalid. (as you would expect).
4 - There are NUMEROUS examples of signable PDFs online. For that matter, you
could download the 30 day demo of Acrobat Professional and make some of your
own.
Don't forget that the licensing ONLY ALLOWS 500 people to return each signed
form. If you expect more than 500 returns - then you will need to purchase
Adobe LiveCycle Reader Extension Server (which is much more than Acrobat!).
Leonard
On 3/4/09 5:25 PM, "Giles, Bear" <bear.gi...@serco-na.com> wrote:
If we use a signable template, is the resulting document signable? Or is it
something that can only be done with acroforms? What about merged documents,
e.g., the first page is signable but subsequent pages is not?
If we can use an underlying signable template, is there a specimen somewhere?
If nothing else it will allow people to prototype solutions for TPTB to
evaluate.
Still trying to convince said PTB to get Acrobat Pro, but they reasonably look
at the price and divide it by the dozen or so documents that we build upon and
express great reluctance.
Thanks,
Bear
From: Leonard Rosenthol [mailto:lrose...@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:56 PM
To: Post all your questions about iText here
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Client signature of FDF
You need to use Adobe Acrobat Professional or Adobe LiveCycle Reader Extensions
Server in order to "Reader Enable" the PDF to allow Reader to sign it.
Leonard
On 3/2/09 9:51 PM, "Giles, Bear" <bear.gi...@serco-na.com> wrote:
I saw similar questions in the mailing list but nothing quite like this...
We've been generating and caching complete PDF documents in our database and
trusting the user to physically sign the documents and mail them to the
appropriate authorities, but we're expanding our application and the latest
customer wants the users to digitally sign the documents.
I can send a PDF to the client and get a FDF back, per section 15.3.2 in "iText
in Action". I can set up a signature field on the PDF I send to the client.
But....
1. How does the client actually sign the document? I can get the
signature field on the form, but not sign it. Is this handled by embedded
javascript? A problem with my Reader 9 configuation?
2. Will the signature remain on the merged document?
Thanks,
Bear
--
Leonard Rosenthol
PDF Standards Architect
Adobe Systems Incorporated
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