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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Marchywka [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Embedding subset of fonts
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> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:20:50 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Embedding subset of fonts
> >
> > My only comment would be that in most cases, there are 
> laws/regulations that require that the "exact document" that 
> was presented/distributed is what goes into the archive. In 
> such a case, it wouldn't be possible to archive "parts"...
> 
> The same electrons in in sme state in violation of 
> heisenberg? LOL. You would then be saying that compression is 
> not allowed.
> Since itext is deterministic, if you feed it the same input 
> twice you should get the same output. This is
> no different than unzipping.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Leonard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Marchywka [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:44 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Embedding subset of fonts
> >
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> >
> > ________________________________
> >> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:38:05 +0100
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Embedding subset of fonts
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I can't agree that.
> >>
> >> Just to show you the difference between huge single PDF 
> and broken down
> >> single PDF-s, have a look pls at the following table:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> embedded subset Huge PDF(kB) Pages Single PDF (averaged in
> >> kB)
> >>
> >> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> >>
> >> yes 130 61
> >> 27
> >>
> >> yes 2147 1184
> >> 29
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> no 633 253
> >> 6
> >>
> >> no 14202 7577
> >> 4
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The single PDF is a lot of bigger, a factor of 5-6 of 
> multiplication.
> >>
> >> Producing ca. 4 million pages per year and archiving this 
> (this is only
> >> the beginning), the diference would be more then 100GB 
> more space, data
> >> transfer and so on.
> >
> >
> > At the risk of antagonizing Leonard and Bruno again re the 
> resource requirements,
> > I guess I'd ask why you archive PDF files and not just the 
> pieces that go into making
> > them which presumably are smaller, and then recreate on the 
> fly when needed? You wouldn't archive page images
> > unless you value rendering speed over size. It is easier to 
> store a font
> > and input string and have a "decompression" algorithm that 
> happens to convert
> > this into a human readable image. You wouldn't have many 
> quams about archiving a zip file,
> > why not "decompose" your pdf file into input pieces (text 
> and fonts) that probably are much smaller and for that
> > matter would probably allow better indexing with your DB 
> facilities.  Then, you
> > can "decompress" using itext when needed. Creating a PDF 
> file is a great way to "decompress"
> > a concise representation of anything ( just to provoke a 
> response from Leo LOL).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Zoltan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1T3XT info schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >> Zoltan Kakucs wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks again.
> >> Do you mean with subset fonts embedding the ttf-s or using 
> the metrik
> >> files (afm) together with the postscript (pfb)?
> >> We are using also fonts given only as ttf.
> >> It's a bit shadowy for me, how the final version looks like.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If you embed Type1 fonts (afm or pfm + pfb), iText will embed
> >> the complete font. (But most Type1 fonts aren't that big.)
> >> If you embed True Type or Open Type fonts with True Type oulines
> >> (ttf files), iText will automatically subset the font.
> >>
> >> Now if you create the large document with the fonts embedded,
> >> chances are the separate files won't be that large, because you're
> >> basically using an alphabet of 26 letters (times 2 for caps) and
> >> some interpunction.
> >>
> >> If you have a capital Z in one page, the description of this glyph
> >> will also be in the subsetted font of documents that don't contain
> >> the capital Z, but that's not a technical problem. The file will be
> >> a little bit bigger because of the unused Z, but is that a problem?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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