Antonio,

I have a file on a Windows 7 computer (with the default code page for
English), that I rename by cutting and pasting a UTF-8 encoded character from
an Internet page into the filename. What happens then? The browser copies and
converts it to UTF-16 and places it in the clipboard, which I then paste into
the filename.


Good News: Even though my version Windows is English only, the filename
displays properly in Windows



Bad News: IUP will not display Unicode properly in all textboxes

Comment: IUP displays the ellipsis (… U+2026) correctly, but the textarea
doesn't display the right-pointer arrow (➔ U+279c) properly


Action: What happens when I set UTF8MODE=Yes?

Result: The first textbox incorrectly displays the ellipsis character as
unknown/error, but now the textarea displays the correct right-pointer
character, although the character incorrectly overlap other characters.


Action: If I set UTF8MODE_FILE=Yes, I get the following:

Bad News:: No Unicode characters display correctly anywhere. Also, I cannot
open the file with fopen() using the filename provided by IupFileDlg().


Action: So then I set UTF8MODE=Yes and UTF8MODE_FILE=Yes and I get the
following:

Result: All Unicode characters displays properly but I still cannot open the
file with fopen() using the filename provided by IupFileDlg().


Discussion: Windows NTFS supports UTF-16 and only UTF-16 filenames, so no
matter what your code page is set to, Windows will always translate filenames
from UTF-16 to your code page encoding (and back again). If I retrieve that
filename using IUP's very convenient IupFileDlg(), it returns the filename
string in ANSI or UTF-8, but Windows fopen() does not accept UTF-8 or UTF-16,
it only accepts the current ANSI code page. I can use _wfopen(), but only if
the string is encoded as UTF-16, which Iup does not support for this. It would
be nice to have everything in the Windows version of Iup in native UTF-16, as
their are hundreds of internal functions that directly support that format. I
would only have to worry about translating filenames or certain file contents
when supporting other languages and code pages.


Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_in_Microsoft_Windows#UTF-8, it
explains how, "Microsoft Windows has a code page designated for UTF-8, code
page 65001. Prior to Windows 10 insider build 17035 (November 2017), it was
impossible to set the locale code page to 65001, leaving this code page only
available for (a) explicit conversion functions such as MultiByteToWideChar
and/or (b) the Win32 console command chcp 65001 to translate stdin/out between
UTF-8 and UTF-16.


Microsoft said that a UTF-8 locale might break some functions (a possible
example is _mbsrev) as they were written to assume multibyte encodings used no
more than 2 bytes per character, thus code pages with more bytes such as GB
18030 (cp54936) and UTF-8 could not be set as the locale.


This means that "narrow" functions, in particular fopen (which opens files),
cannot be called with UTF-8 strings, and in fact there is no way to open all
possible files using fopen no matter what the locale is set to and/or what
bytes are put in the string, as none of the available locales can produce all
possible UTF-16 characters. This problem also applies to all other api that
takes or returns 8 bit strings, including Windows ones such as SetWindowText"


Recommendation: Get rid of UTF-8 Windows support since it isn't very useful
(Linux should be okay though). Use Microsoft's internal default of UTF-16.
There are hundreds of functions in Windows that support ASCII or UTF-16, but
there are none that natively support any other encoding. Doing this will allow
me to use GB-18035 encoding because all filenames are encoded as UTF-16 in
Windows and it is easy to translate between UTF-16 and UTF-GB.
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