Hi Artem and Brian,

I made a mistake in describing the issue.  I did actually dd to the raw
disk itself, not a partition. Had I done it to a partition, Gparted
wouldn't have updated the partition table on refresh. I also set up
bmaptool and tried to directly write to a different USB stick to make it
bootable using the ---nobmap option.  That failed as well.

However, bmaptool using both the .raw.bz2 AND the .bmap file seems to.

So thank you both for pointing me in the right direction.

I also think I may update the Tizen wiki to make it clear that using dd of
the raw file simply doesn't work, at least not from anything downloaded off
of the Tizen website. The bmap doesn't just accelerate the transfer, it is
an integral part of ensuring that the data is all in the correct place.

Once you have a bootable USB stick, I suspect it may be possible to dd from
raw device to raw device, though I haven't tested that.

Again thanks!

Steve Maurer



On 10 August 2013 03:58, Artem Bityutskiy
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 2013-08-09 at 11:37 -0700, Maurer, Steven wrote:
> > I followed the instructions and after downloading the executable
> > tizen_20130729.2_ivi-release-mbr-i586-sdb.raw.bz2 from
> >
> http://download.tizen.org/releases/milestone/tizen/ivi/tizen_20130729.2/images/ivi-release-mbr-i586/
> ,
>
> OK, just FYI, with bmaptool you could flash directly from the URL, see
> examples here:
>
> https://source.tizen.org/documentation/articles/bmaptool-copy
>
> >  I unpacked it onto a bootable GParted USB stick,
>
> You do not need to unpack it anywhere, but you can, of course, in you
> need the uncompressed version, but for flashing to an USB stick you do
> not need to unpack.
>
> >  dd-ed it onto the partition,
>
> You should dd to the disk itself, not to the partition. The Tizen IVI
> image contains own partition table.
>
> Brian posted you the links where you can find instructions for both dd
> and bmaptool.
>
> But generally, just to let you understand the internals, Tizen IVI
> images are raw images. They contain the partition table, partitions, and
> all the FS data on the partitions. They are supposed to be copied to the
> block device as is.
>
> Of course, if your block device is larger, you'll end up with
> unpartitioned space. You'll need to create more partitions or re-size
> the last partition, which is the rootfs partition.
>
> There is on-going work to make the installer which will install Tizen
> IVI from USB stick to the internal disk, and use all the disk space. So
> in the future.
>
> Here is some basic info about what raw images are:
>
> https://source.tizen.org/documentation/reference/bmaptool/introduction
>
> See section "raw images".
>
> > I'm also wondering if there might be some variations within the
> > NDis166 hardware that makes my box fail to accept the image.  About
> > the only variation on the procedure I performed was that I downloaded
> > the original .bz2 file and used windows to unpack the raw data file
> > onto the SanDisk stick, but that shouldn't make any difference
> > whatsoever.
>
> No, the process is simpler than that. You just drop the image to an USB
> stick as is. You may take any USB stick, you do not have to format it
> prior to flashing. You just write the image to the USB stick starting
> from sector number 0.
>
> Then you can boot off the USB stick.
>
> If you then want to make the internal SSD bootable, there are a couple
> of caveats. In the future this will be easy, we are working on it, just
> do not have enough resources to implement it quickly. Feel free to
> contribute here :-)
>
> > If there is anyone who knows the trials and travails of getting this
> > to work, I'd be appreciative.
> >
> Home you got the answers. Thanks!
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Artem Bityutskiy
>
>


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