Joel,

Just for curiosity.

What specific requirements are not met by OSP?
Is there any alternative which can be supported by Tizen store?

Regards,

Yoonsoo.



2013/9/13 Clark, Joel <[email protected]>

>  Oliver,****
>
> ** **
>
> Intel does support OSP as the mobile native framework.****
>
> The TSG has not chosen OSP as the IVI native framework. ****
>
> ** **
>
> I know Rusty and I agree that the IVI requirements are not met by OSP as a
> native API. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards****
>
> Joel****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *olivier nyssen
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:23 PM
> *To:* Lynch, Rusty
> *Cc:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: Native app for tizen ivi****
>
>  ** **
>
> I'm not playing politics here: everyone is welcome including Qt, EFL, etc*
> ***
>
> But the reality is: probably more than 90% of native Tizen apps will be
> OSP.****
>
> The TSG has chosen OSP as the mobile native framework; Intel is a member
> of the TSG so you guys must support OSP.****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,****
>
> Olivier****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>    ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Rusty Lynch <[email protected]>
> *To:* olivier nyssen <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Native app for tizen ivi****
>
>
> EFL is available to developers that need that extra something that the
> web runtime doesn't offer.  You have all the rope you need to make
> something nice or completely hang yourself.
>
> An example of an app that uses efl is the dialer (i.e.
> profile/ivi/lemolo)
>
>     --rusty
>
> On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 03:23 -0700, olivier nyssen wrote:
> > OSP was probably a poor choice but native Tizen apps like games etc
> > must run on Tizen IVI imo
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > From: "VanCutsem, Geoffroy" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Clark, Joel" <[email protected]>; olivier nyssen
> > <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:12 PM
> > Subject: RE: Native app for tizen ivi
> >
> >
> > I also would like to add to Joel’s comment that another reason why we
> > don’t support OSP in IVI is that there are too many shotcomings in the
> > API to make it truly useful to IVI vendors.
> > Cheers,
> > Geoffroy
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Clark, Joel
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 12:48 PM
> > To: olivier nyssen; [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: Native app for tizen ivi
> >
> > No,
> >
> > One reason is that IVI vendors want an assurance that Native APIs once
> > announced as supported will remain stable in future releases and the
> > IVI team has no ability to assure that will be true with OSP (or any
> > other native APIs in Linux).  It is worth noting that there is OSP
> > code working in Tizen IVI and more will be working in the future.
> > Often this is because OSP code underlays the Tizen Webruntime
> > bindings.  However the nature of the working OSP code is not
> > sufficient to be described as a supported API for Tizen IVI.
> >
> > There may be an opportunity for a Product Vendor who wants to lock in
> > on specific versions of Tizen for long term product support to elevate
> > OSP or other native, middleware and platform APIs to a “supported”
> > level.
> >
> > Regards
> > Joel
> >
> >
> > From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of olivier nyssen
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 2:57 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Native app for tizen ivi
> >
> > Hi Joel,
> >
> > Any plans to support OSP apps on IVI ?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > From: "Clark, Joel" <[email protected]>
> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>;
> > "[email protected]" <[email protected]>;
> > "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: Native app for tizen ivi
> >
> > The Tizen IVI 3.0 M2 release is planned for December 2013.  There are
> > monthly previews for M2 planned starting with July 2013.  You can see
> > the planned versions and dates here:
> >
> https://bugs.tizen.org/jira/browse/TIVI#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aversions-panel
> >
> > Unlike the Mobile profile, IVI does not support the “OSP” native APIs.
> > So “Native” app development is done with the underlying platform
> > component APIs.  For example you can use EFL or OpenGL, and also use
> > gstreamer, or bluez, or connman APIs etc. The “Lemolo” dialer is an
> > example of a native application.
> > https://review.tizen.org/git/?p=profile/ivi/lemolo.git;a=summary. You
> > may get answers from the general tizen mail list that talk about doing
> > native development using OSP native APIs that won’t apply to doing IVI
> > development.
> >
> > Developers typically use GBS and MIC for development, and there is
> > much discussion here on how to use it. Here are some references.
> > https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_branching_scheme
> > https://source.tizen.org/documentation/reference/git-build-system/
> > https://source.tizen.org/documentation/articles/mic-image-creator
> >
> https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/How_to_contribute_to_Tizen_IVI#Setting_up_GBS_for_Tizen_IVI
> >
> > regards
> > Joel
> >
> >
> >
> > From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:29 PM
> > To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > Subject: Native app for tizen ivi
> >
> > hi all
> >    How to develop a native app on tizen-ivi 3.0 M2 ?
> >
> >
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