Hans - Unfortunately I don't have anymore time.  The server gets deployed in
about an hour from now.  An #ifdef would be OK.

Thanks,
Rich

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Verkuil
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:50 PM
To: Discussion list for development of the IVTV driver
Subject: Re: [ivtv-devel] System hangs loading driver modules for PVR-500

On Tuesday 27 June 2006 09:18, Rich Kadel wrote:
> It is working with 3 PVR-500 cards.  I'm capturing vbi data into all
> 6 tuners simultaneously!
>
> Hans - I have been working with the ivtv-0.4.6 source download, not
> with subversion.  Will you accept and apply this change into the
> baseline, or do I need to maintain it as a one-off?

If you have time in the future for more testing, then I prefer to keep 
it a one-off. I don't like adding hacks like this. It works, yes, but 
why? If not, then I might add it under an #ifdef which by default is 
not set.

        Hans

>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
> --
>
> Rich Kadel
> Know'bout, Inc.
> (858) 433-1747
> www.knowbout.com
>
> Do you know about Know'bout?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Verkuil
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:05 PM
> To: Discussion list for development of the IVTV driver
> Subject: Re: [ivtv-devel] System hangs loading driver modules for
> PVR-500
>
> On Tuesday 27 June 2006 07:42, Rich Kadel wrote:
> > Qualified success!!
> >
> > Even better solution...
> >
> > I was able to take the sleep out of ivtv-i2c.c and put it in
> > ivtv-driver.c in just one place in the initialization. So it does
> > not get called while generally using the driver.  Much better.
> >
> > However, msleep(10) was not enough.  Msleep(100) was necessary or
> > else it crashed.  On or about line 1355 of ivtv-driver.c:
> >
> >         /* Digitizer */
> >         msleep(100);
> >         itv->card->video_dec_func(itv, VIDIOC_S_STD, &itv->std);
> >
> > "modprobe ivtv" will now load the driver cleanly from the command
> > line.
> >
> > AND IT EVEN BOOTED CLEANLY!
> >
> > AND IT STILL WORKS (can change the channel and see the closed
> > caption data!)
> >
> > So, adding this one msleep line works in my Dell 2850 with a
> > PVR-500 card in a PCI-X slot.
> >
> > But since msleep(10) does not work, I'm concerned that a different
> > machine configuration may still break even with msleep(100),
> > depending on the timing.  It would be much better if someone could
> > help figure out what the real problem was, so we can solve it
> > properly.
>
> I agree. Unfortunately, I don't have time for further debugging. What
> I would like to see is a test with a newer kernel to be sure it is
> not a kernel issue. I still see no reason why a msleep at that place
> would work.
>
> But at least you have a workaround!
>
>       Hans
>
> > Thanks to Hans for putting me on the right track.  Please keep me
> > informed if someone else has a better solution or idea.
> >
> > Now I'm going to try 3 PVR-500 cards simultaneously.  If it raises
> > any new issues, I'll let you know.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rich Kadel
> > Know'bout, Inc.
> > (858) 433-1747
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Kadel
> > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 10:04 PM
> > To: 'Discussion list for development of the IVTV driver'
> > Subject: Re: [ivtv-devel] System hangs loading driver modules for
> > PVR-500
> >
> > In case anyone is interested, I have some small proof that a
> > PVR-500 can work in a PCI-X slot.
> >
> > Hans and I worked on this most of the day until he had to go.  I
> > was able to get a little further and found a small, temporary
> > workaround.
> >
> > I don't know the real cause, or the best fix yet, but by putting
> >
> > msleep(10);
> >
> > right before
> >
> > retval = client->driver->command(client, cmd, arg);
> >
> > in ivtv-i2c.c
> >
> > I was able to get the driver to load without crashing the system
> > (something I was not able to do heretofore) and I was able to use
> > the driver successfully to change the channel (ivtv-tune), and to
> > capture closed captioning data using zvbi's capture and decode
> > programs.  The closed captioning comes out clean.
> >
> > Note that this sleep gets called a lot, so it may not be acceptable
> > for actual video capture, and I'm not testing that right now.  My
> > main goal was to get the driver to load, but of course, I hope
> > someone can figure out what the right solution is.
> >
> > I think I'm having one other problem.  I will need to try it again
> > to be sure.  But I believe the driver won't load at boot time.  It
> > crashes the system during initialization at boot.  That's bad
> > because if I have to reboot, I have to take all of the PVR-500
> > cards out to get it to boot up, then remove the drivers, then put
> > the cards back in, boot up, and load the drivers from the command
> > line (which does work).
> >
> > Does anyone know the difference between loading drivers during boot
> > vs. loading them from the command line?  I'm using CentOS 4.3
> > (basically RHEL 4.3).
> >
> > Also, does anyone know where the kernel logs get written during the
> > early boot stage?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rich Kadel
> > Know'bout, Inc.
> > (858) 433-1747
> > www.knowbout.com
> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans
> > Verkuil Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:48 AM
> > To: Discussion list for development of the IVTV driver
> > Subject: Re: [ivtv-devel] System hangs loading driver modules for
> > PVR-500
> >
> > Hi Rich,
> >
> > Try adding 'ivtv_debug=511' to the ivtv module options. This should
> > provide (much) more debug info and hopefully help in giving me a
> > better idea where the problem is.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >        Hans
> >
> > > Hans,
> > >
> > > I messed around with this a little more.  I've run out of time
> > > now and unless someone has a quick fix (I realize that's not
> > > likely), I'm going to have to stick with the PVR-250 cards and be
> > > limited to 3 tuners on this server.
> > >
> > > But here's a little bit more information...
> > >
> > > FIRST:  I realized why it was hanging during the boot phase, and
> > > it was the
> > > ivtv driver after all.  Once I removed the driver and all of the
> > > files, it booted up fine WITH the PVR-500 (but with no drivers).
> > >
> > > Here is part of lspci -v showing the 250 and the 500 (2 units):
> > >
> > > 09:04.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc
> > > iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
> > >         Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV PVR 250
> > >         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 225
> > >         Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> > >         Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
> > >
> > > 0a:02.0 PCI bridge: Hint Corp HB6 Universal PCI-PCI bridge
> > > (non-transparent
> > > mode) (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
> > >         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
> > >         Bus: primary=0a, secondary=0b, subordinate=0b,
> > > sec-latency=32 Memory behind bridge: fe100000-fe1fffff
> > >         Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d0000000-d7ffffff
> > >         Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
> > >         Capabilities: [90] #06 [0000]
> > >
> > > 0b:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc
> > > iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
> > >         Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV PVR 500
> > > (1st unit) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 233
> > > Memory at d4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> > > Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
> > >
> > > 0b:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc
> > > iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
> > >         Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV PVR 500
> > > (2nd unit) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 50
> > > Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> > > Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
> > >
> > > SECOND: I put some debug lines in the driver to see how far it
> > > gets after loading the firmware.  If you see my earlier message
> > > (6/23/06, 10:39PM US Pacific Time), the driver dies sometime
> > > after loading the firmware:
> > >
> > > Jun 23 21:32:20 server1 kernel: ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
> > > firmware (262144 bytes)
> > >
> > > Now, however, with the debug lines in, it gets a little further.
> > > I'm denoting my additional lines with ">" here:
> > >
> > > Jun 25 23:06:18 server1 kernel: ivtv1: 2. loaded
> > > v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware
> > > (262144 bytes)
> > >
> > >> Jun 25 23:06:18 server1 kernel: ivtv1: Done with
> > >> ivtv_firmware_copy Jun 25 23:06:18 server1 kernel: ivtv1: Out of
> > >> ivtv_firmware_init Jun 25 23:06:18 server1 kernel: ivtv1: Out of
> > >> find_firmware_mailbox Jun 25 23:06:18 server1 kernel: ivtv1: Out
> > >> of check_firmware
> > >
> > > Jun 25 23:06:18 server1 kernel: ivtv1: Encoder revision:
> > > 0x02050032 Jun 25 23:06:18 server1 kernel: ivtv1: Allocate DMA
> > > encoder MPEG stream: 128
> > > x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
> > > Jun 25 23:12:21 server1 syslogd 1.4.1: restart.
> > >
> > > So it appears to me that the server death is not directly related
> > > to executing a specific line of code in the main thread of the
> > > driver initialization, which means I've exhausted my ability to
> > > provide useful information to you.  I don't know how to debug
> > > write or drivers.
> > >
> > > Hopefully this is of some help to you, and if you have a chance
> > > to fix this
> > > someday, please let me know.  I appreciate the help.
> > >
> > > If there's anything else you want me to check, I have about 24
> > > hours before
> > > this server is a going to be closed up and deployed.  I can't do
> > > much after
> > > that.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rich
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rich Kadel
> > > Know'bout, Inc.
> > > (858) 433-1747
> > > www.knowbout.com
> > >
> > > Do you know about Know'bout?
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans
> > > Verkuil Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:16 AM
> > > To: Discussion list for development of the IVTV driver
> > > Subject: Re: [ivtv-devel] System hangs loading driver modules for
> > > PVR-500
> > >
> > > On Sunday 25 June 2006 18:00, Tyler Trafford wrote:
> > >> On Jun 25, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > >> > I really first need proof that it works under Windows before
> > >> > I'm going to spend time on this. And the first step would be
> > >> > to put printk's in the driver (ivtv-driver.c) and see where it
> > >> > breaks down. Also note that
> > >> > I expect to have little time for this anyway in the next two
> > >> > weeks.
> > >>
> > >> A thread from last year suggests that this does work under
> > >> Windows.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/18662#18662
> > >
> > > Interesting. Although the code location mentioned in this thread
> > > is with 99.99% certainty not the place where it is hanging.
> > >
> > >   Hans
> > >
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