Hi Andy -

I really appreciate this reply! Very helpful.

I did find a datasheet via Google for the CX23416 which had pinouts
and stuff, though it made no mention of loading firmware and stuff. I
gather that this datasheet is supposed to be locked up tight though
and maybe isn't supposed to be publicly downloadable - is it just as
restrictive for the CX23417 and CX23418?

I would love to see datasheets for either of those two.

Thanks,
Ben

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Andy Walls <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 17:17 -0400, Ben Gelb wrote:
>> Perhaps this isn't the perfect forum for this question since its not
>> really a software question, but I can't really think of any other. So
>> sorry in advance if people find this to be "off topic."
>>
>> I'm interested in accessing the "encoded stream output interface" on
>> the CX23416 (not the MCU/PCI interface!) and using it to drive some
>> other digital logic (homebrew DVB-S transmitter).
>>
>> >From the CX23416 datasheet, it looks like I can just stream a TS out
>> of this output port.
>
> AFAIK, the CX23416 firmware does not produce a TS; just a PS, an MPEG 1
> Stream, or PES's of various types.
>
> I'm unsure about the CX23417's ability to produce a TS (I doubt it), but
> it certainly has an output port of some sort, as it doesn't have a PCI
> interface.
>
> I know that the CX23418 firmware can produce a TS; the Linux cx18 driver
> can tell the chip to do just that.  The publicly available datasheet
> also says that MPEG output can be supported on a 1-bit serial peripheral
> interface. (Note, the linux cx18 driver doesn't configure that output
> port; the driver only sets up MPEG streams to come the PCI bus.)
>
>
>
>> Does anybody know if this port is physically accessible on any of the
>> common capture cards?
>
> I have no idea.
>
> The ones you'd have the best shot at are cards with a CX23417.  That
> chip doesn't have a PCI interface.  It has to clock the MPEG stream out
> to a PCI bridge chip, so the MPEG stream should be accessable.  Of
> course, I have no idea if the CX23417 produces an MPEG TS.  You'll have
> to check the linux drivers that actually support boards with that chip
> to try and get an idea.
>
>
>> It's a bit unfortunate that the CX23416 is a BGA
>> package, since it makes it hard (not really possible) to tack on
>> wires.
>
> Also the pinouts aren't publicly available.
>
>
>> Any helpful suggestions appreciated.
>
> 1. If this is a one-off project, I'd just use a CX23418 based card to
> capture an MPEG TS.  Then I'd use a homebrew piece of hardware to shift
> it out a serial or parallel interface.  You're going to have to stuff
> the TS with NULL packets to get proper DVB-S rate adaptation correct
> anyway (right?).  (BTW who's transponder are you going to use? ;) )
>
> With that, I think you'll spend less time on guessing at software
> commands to get the output port configured and started, and also less
> time guessing at pins and frying boards.
>
>
>
> 2. If this is a serious project into which you'd like to invest a
> non-trivial amount of $, then contact your regional Conexant sales rep.
>
>
>
> Unless you get lucky figuring out the pins on a board with a CX23417,
> anything other than 1 or 2 above is likely to be frustrating, and may
> consume a lot of time and effort in the process.
>
> Regards,
> Andy
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>
>
>
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