Kevin - You and other primary IVTV developers have done an incredible job providing excellent drivers for these PVR's against absurd odds and industry obstinance. Hauppauge and other companies will never know the size of the market until they at least sniff it out. Those companies that have jumped in early have owned the market (i.e., 3Ware). What companies like Hauppauge don't realize is that while the market is smaller, people tend to buy multiple units. Keep up the good work.
On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 12:34, kevin thayer wrote: > I have spoken with hauppauge about this sort of thing > in the past. > > it sounds simple, but there are more complex issues. > > 1) linux and windows have completely different O/S > level interfaces. The part that configures the card > will probably be the same, but actaully interacting > with the card won't be. The windows directshow > interface or whatever it is has an api that is used to > communicate with windows (much like v4l in linux), > only it's far more complex, and (you guessed it) not > even close to compatible. > > 2) linux is such a small part of the market that they > can't justify hiring a developer.. They have been > quite helpful to me, moreso than most companies. > > 3) much of the 'value-add' or 'competitive edge' that > hauppauge *percieves* that it has over the competition > is the tuner setup (fine-tuning, etc) nuances and > other little things they do for their cards to make > that extra little bit of difference. Releasing that to > the community (at least in their view) is to remove a > lot of their competitive edge. Whether or not this is > true is a matter of debate, since we're sniffing the > i2c bus anyhow, but it's obviously more complex than > that since we can't seem to get the pvr150's working > all the time :) > > I'm just putting #3 out there because they have > expressed their concern to me on the topic. Please do > not debate the validity of the point. > > -tmk > > --- Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Understand something, I never complained that they > > weren't forthcoming with information... I was > > complaining that they weren't forthcoming with > > DRIVERS!!! I then cited an example of a company > > that does provide linux drivers to indicate what > > should be the norm not the exception. Hauppague had > > all of the information to build a great Windows > > driver.. I know, my card works great under windows > > but then... it seems that the magic information just > > evaporates and they are unable to produce drivers > > for linux. Correct me if I am wrong but it is > > possible to create the drivers without releasing the > > source code... they could compile the drivers using > > the same complier they use to build the Windows > > driver. Thereby, support linux without violating > > any of their NDAs. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IntelliVIEW -- Interactive Reporting > Tool for open source databases. Create drag-&-drop reports. Save time > by over 75%! Publish reports on the web. Export to DOC, XLS, RTF, etc. > Download a FREE copy at http://www.intelliview.com/go/osdn_nl > _______________________________________________ > ivtv-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ivtv-devel > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IntelliVIEW -- Interactive Reporting Tool for open source databases. Create drag-&-drop reports. Save time by over 75%! Publish reports on the web. Export to DOC, XLS, RTF, etc. Download a FREE copy at http://www.intelliview.com/go/osdn_nl _______________________________________________ ivtv-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ivtv-devel
