On Sunday 03 February 2008 22:13:45 Josh White wrote:
> All,
>
> I recently added a second PVR-500 to my system and I'm seeing poor
> recording quality on the second unit.  As you can see, one of the
> cards features Philips tuners, while the other features a Samsung
> unit.  My older card, which has the Phillips Tuner seems to record
> well, while the newer one with the Samsung Tuner yields grainy video
> with diagonal lines.  This seems true for both tuners on the card. 
> Is this just a limitation of the hardware, or is there something I
> can do to improve my results?  I'm using the cards with my MythTV
> system, running version .20.2.  I'm confident the coax cables are not
> the issue, as my new PVR-500 card replaced a PVR-250, which was
> connected by the same cable.  I can switch the two lines between my
> two installed cards and there is no change in the results, the older
> card works well and the newer one does not.

There are two possible causes: first of all the Samsung tuners are 
simply not very good, and secondly the PVR-500 needs a stronger signal 
than the PVR-250 (it splits the signal internally to both tuners, so 
this reduces the signal strength). In this case it sounds that an 
antenna amplifier will help. However, if there are some channels that 
work and others that do not (and often show a sort of herringbone 
effect), then there isn't a lot that can be done as that is a 
limitation of the Samsung tuner. But from the description of your 
problem I'd say that you need an amplifier.

Regards,

        Hans

>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg | tac |
>
> > sed -n '/=\ \ END INIT IVTV\ \ =/,/= START INIT IVTV =/p;
> >     /= START INIT IVTV =/q' |
> > tac
>
> [   38.248367] ivtv:  ==================== START INIT IVTV
> ====================
> [   38.248372] ivtv:  version 1.0.0 (2.6.22-14-generic SMP mod_unload
> 586 ) loading
> [   38.248470] ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
> [   38.248695] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:08.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level,
> low) -> IRQ 19
> [   38.550509] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:07.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level,
> low) -> IRQ 18
> [   38.944480] ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (4099151824
> bytes) [   39.159064] ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
> [   39.159068] ivtv0: Recommended firmware version is 0x02060039.
> [   39.223946] tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 23552, rev D292,
> serial# 7750056
> [   39.223951] tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is Philips FQ1236A MK4
> (idx 92, type 57)
> [   39.223954] tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
> [   39.223957] tveeprom 0-0050: second tuner model is Philips
> TEA5768HL FM Radio (idx 101, type 62)
> [   39.223960] tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
> [   39.223963] tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
> [   39.223965] tveeprom 0-0050: has radio, has no IR receiver, has no
> IR transmitter
> [   39.223968] ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1)
> [   39.253403] tuner 0-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
> [   39.253441] tda9887 0-0043: tda988[5/6/7] found @ 0x43 (tuner)
> [   39.257351] tuner 0-0060: TEA5767 detected.
> [   39.257353] tuner 0-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
> [   39.257367] tuner 0-0060: type set to 62 (Philips TEA5767HN FM
> Radio) [   39.257612] tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c
> driver #0) [   39.303883] cx25840 0-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88
> (ivtv i2c driver #0) [   42.806958] cx25840 0-0044: loaded
> v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes) [   42.916068] wm8775 0-001b:
> chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0) [   42.964329] tuner 0-0061:
> type set to 57 (Philips FQ1236A MK4) [   43.284349] ivtv0: Registered
> device video0 for encoder MPEG (4 MB) [   43.284676] ivtv0:
> Registered device video32 for encoder YUV (2 MB) [   43.285005]
> ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI (1 MB) [   43.285222]
> ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM audio (1 MB) [  
> 43.285568] ivtv0: Registered device radio0 for encoder radio [  
> 43.311053] ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1), card #0 [  
> 43.311113] ivtv:  ======================  NEXT CARD
> ======================
> [   43.311120] ivtv1: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
> [   43.311179] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:09.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level,
> low) -> IRQ 20
> [   43.617192] NET: Registered protocol family 10
> [   43.617291] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
> [   43.938563] ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (4099153376
> bytes) [   44.151894] ivtv1: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
> [   44.151898] ivtv1: Recommended firmware version is 0x02060039.
> [   44.156939] tuner 1-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
> [   44.156959] tda9887 1-0043: tda988[5/6/7] found @ 0x43 (tuner)
> [   44.160260] tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
> [   44.176781] cx25840 1-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c
> driver #1) [   47.680211] cx25840 1-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw
> firmware (16382 bytes) [   47.758276] wm8775 1-001b: chip found @
> 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #1) [   47.830696] tveeprom 1-0050: Hauppauge
> model 23552, rev D292, serial# 7750056
> [   47.830701] tveeprom 1-0050: tuner model is Philips FQ1236A MK4
> (idx 92, type 57)
> [   47.830704] tveeprom 1-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
> [   47.830707] tveeprom 1-0050: second tuner model is Philips
> TEA5768HL FM Radio (idx 101, type 62)
> [   47.830710] tveeprom 1-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
> [   47.830712] tveeprom 1-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
> [   47.830715] tveeprom 1-0050: has radio, has no IR receiver, has no
> IR transmitter
> [   47.830718] ivtv1: Correcting tveeprom data: no radio present on
> second unit
> [   47.830721] ivtv1: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2)
> [   47.903241] tuner 1-0061: type set to 57 (Philips FQ1236A MK4)
> [   48.225002] ivtv1: Registered device video1 for encoder MPEG (4
> MB) [   48.225358] ivtv1: Registered device video33 for encoder YUV
> (2 MB) [   48.225709] ivtv1: Registered device vbi1 for encoder VBI
> (1 MB) [   48.225958] ivtv1: Registered device video25 for encoder
> PCM audio (1 MB) [   48.250386] ivtv1: Initialized WinTV PVR 500
> (unit #2), card #1 [   48.255459] ivtv:  ======================  NEXT
> CARD
> ======================
> [   48.255467] ivtv2: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
> [   48.255524] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:04:08.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level,
> low) -> IRQ 20
> [   48.887678] ivtv2: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (4083196440
> bytes) [   49.100824] ivtv2: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
> [   49.100828] ivtv2: Recommended firmware version is 0x02060039.
> [   49.107507] tuner 2-0060: TEA5767 detected.
> [   49.107510] tuner 2-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (ivtv i2c driver #2)
> [   49.107546] tuner 2-0060: type set to 62 (Philips TEA5767HN FM
> Radio) [   49.107791] tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c
> driver #2) [   49.124337] cx25840 2-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88
> (ivtv i2c driver #2) [   52.630265] cx25840 2-0044: loaded
> v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes) [   52.708119] wm8775 2-001b:
> chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #2) [   52.781187] tveeprom
> 2-0050: Hauppauge model 23552, rev D587, serial# 8898413
> [   52.781191] tveeprom 2-0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A
> (idx 87, type 70)
> [   52.781194] tveeprom 2-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
> [   52.781197] tveeprom 2-0050: second tuner model is Philips
> TEA5768HL FM Radio (idx 101, type 62)
> [   52.781200] tveeprom 2-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
> [   52.781204] tveeprom 2-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
> [   52.781206] tveeprom 2-0050: has radio, has no IR receiver, has no
> IR transmitter
> [   52.781210] ivtv2: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1)
> [   52.853660] tuner 2-0061: type set to 70 (Samsung TCPN 2121P30A)
> [   53.173914] ivtv2: Registered device video2 for encoder MPEG (4
> MB) [   53.174241] ivtv2: Registered device video34 for encoder YUV
> (2 MB) [   53.174562] ivtv2: Registered device vbi2 for encoder VBI
> (1 MB) [   53.174787] ivtv2: Registered device video26 for encoder
> PCM audio (1 MB) [   53.175137] ivtv2: Registered device radio2 for
> encoder radio [   53.199578] ivtv2: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit
> #1), card #2 [   53.199641] ivtv:  ======================  NEXT CARD
> ======================
> [   53.199646] ivtv3: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
> [   53.199701] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:04:09.0[A] -> GSI 19 (level,
> low) -> IRQ 16
> [   53.830555] ivtv3: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (4083197048
> bytes) [   54.045761] ivtv3: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
> [   54.045764] ivtv3: Recommended firmware version is 0x02060039.
> [   54.051781] tuner 3-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #3)
> [   54.068320] cx25840 3-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c
> driver #3) [   54.365023] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
> [   57.574050] cx25840 3-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382
> bytes) [   57.652207] wm8775 3-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c
> driver #3) [   57.724587] tveeprom 3-0050: Hauppauge model 23552, rev
> D587, serial# 8898413
> [   57.724593] tveeprom 3-0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A
> (idx 87, type 70)
> [   57.724595] tveeprom 3-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
> [   57.724599] tveeprom 3-0050: second tuner model is Philips
> TEA5768HL FM Radio (idx 101, type 62)
> [   57.724601] tveeprom 3-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
> [   57.724604] tveeprom 3-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
> [   57.724606] tveeprom 3-0050: has radio, has no IR receiver, has no
> IR transmitter
> [   57.724609] ivtv3: Correcting tveeprom data: no radio present on
> second unit
> [   57.724612] ivtv3: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2)
> [   57.811615] tuner 3-0061: type set to 70 (Samsung TCPN 2121P30A)
> [   58.126855] ivtv3: Registered device video3 for encoder MPEG (4
> MB) [   58.127249] ivtv3: Registered device video35 for encoder YUV
> (2 MB) [   58.127602] ivtv3: Registered device vbi3 for encoder VBI
> (1 MB) [   58.127860] ivtv3: Registered device video27 for encoder
> PCM audio (1 MB) [   58.151603] ivtv3: Initialized WinTV PVR 500
> (unit #2), card #3 [   58.151630] ivtv:  ====================  END
> INIT IVTV
> ====================



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