On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 13:05 -0400, Gerhard R. Wittreich wrote:
> >
> > I just looked and the 82801 IO controller hub (which is likely
> > integrated into your 80845 chipset) is a PCI v2.2 compliant set of
> > devices.
> >
> > I just read the Product Brief for the CX23418 that is available to the
> > public from Conexant's website.  The CX23418 is a PCI v2.3 device.
> >
> > I've now got to go back through all the other reports from users to see
> > what PCI version their chipsets implement.  I'll post the results with a
> > query for anyone who has a CX23418 working with a PCI v2.2 or earlier
> > chipset.
> >
> > Please verify these findings for yourself (and double check my research)
> > by pulling the 82845 & 82801 datasheets from Intel and the CX23418
> > product brief from Conexant.
> >
> > *** So I think the root cause is a PCI version incompatibility. ***
> >
> >
> > BTW, the last version of the plain old PCI spec I know of is v3.0.  You
> > can google for "pci 3.0 spec" and perhaps find sites host the PCI bus
> > and PCI bridge specs.
> >
> 
> Unfortunately, I may have some contrary data.  The Windows XP system I  
> used to test the HVR-1600 is a Dell Optiplex GX280.  While there is a  
> bit of conflicting data the tech docs for the GX280 show that it is  
> PCI v2.2.  The tech docs also refer to the chipset as an Intel  
> "Grantsdale".  "Grantsdale" was the codename for the Intel 915G/P and  
> 925X chipsets all of which are PCI v2.3.  Since the used Dell I am  
> getting is also a GX280 this should be a good test of your theory.   
> With Linux loaded I will also be able to get the most certain view of  
> the chipset and be able to determine the actual PCI version.
> 
> The other Fedora 9 box has an nVidia nForce 405 chipset.  I could not  
> find any information on the PCI version on the nVidia web page or on  
> the MB mfg's site.  Given it's age (<6 months old) I would assume the  
> PCI version to be >2.2.
> 
> I had one other idea.  Is it worth eliminating the riser card as the  
> source of the problem?  I could plug the HVR-1600 directly into the  
> riser card's slot or use the only other PCI slot which is buried on  
> the MB with no external slot on the back of the case.  I would need to  
> lift the MB in order to get the card into one of those slots.  If that  
> info could help you I will gladly give that a try as well.

I don't think it would help me really.  It may eliminate whether or not
one specific bridge chip's interaction were causing a problem.  If it
were, then it is theoretically possible to start tweaking things and
hope for the best.

I'm not sure it would help you either.  If the HVR-1600 works in that
configuration, what then?  Will you be able to close the case still and
connect cables to the card?



> >> I had reached that same conclusion but was willing to try a few
> more
> >> things in the hopes that this would improve the cx18
> driver/contribute
> >> to the open source community.  I just ordered a new MB (actually
> >> bought a used Dell Optiplex GX280 for $150.)  I'll let you know if
> >> that works...I expect it will.
> >
> > Check the mobo chipset to make sure it's PCI v2.3 or above!
> >
> 
> Not clear but probably v2.2

Let me know please when you find out.



> >> Thanks for all you help.  To bad we didn't solve this one but we gave
> >> it a good try.  If you think any of the above PCI boot options is
> >> worth trying I will still do that.
> >
> > Maybe the "rom" one.  I doubt it will fix things.
> >
> 
> None of the PCI or ACPI kernel boot parameters had any effect.

Not surprising but it was worth a try.

Regards,
Andy




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