Ok. I'll bite the bullet.

I will reinstall the old system and verify that.

Regards,
Alex

Hans Verkuil schrieb:
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 18:13:04 Alexander Pipelka wrote:
  
 Hans,

 The older version of the driver supported 0 B-Frames (I'm 100%
sure).

 I need this for very fast frame navigation in a MPEG stream.
 It worked with the driver included in Ubuntu Edgy (I think it was
version 0.7.4 of the driver).

 Unfortunately I updated that machine to Ubuntu Hardy and the problem
appeared.

 Well, I could reinstall an other machine with Ubuntu Edgy to
*verify* that the 0 B-Frame thing works, but I already know this, ...

 Please help !
    

I am not convinced. The only difference I've found between 0.7.4 and the 
latest driver when it comes to B-frames was corrected by my patch. As 
far as I can tell 0.7.4 used the same firmware as well.

I vaguely remember that someone tried it with an old ivtv version as 
well in the past and got a similar results. However, I can't find the 
specifics so I might be wrong.

The upshot is that I *really* need to see proof that this ever worked 
(and worked with the same firmware as well!) before I go and spend a 
lot of time figuring out what changed. The fact that you could set 
B-frames to 0 using ivtvctl doesn't mean at all that it actually 
worked. Actually the value 0 that was passed to the firmware in 0.7.4 
was not according to the fw docs since they specific that you have to 
pass '#bframes + 1' to the firmware, so '0' should be an illegal value.

Regards,

	Hans

  
 Alex

 Hans Verkuil schrieb:
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 08:26:16 Levente Novák wrote:

Hi,

Is there any advance on the topic of B-frames problem on PVR-150s and
PVR-250s? A few days ago I tested Hans' patch and while my PVR-150
MCE does now save a non-zero length stream if th number of B-frames
is set to 0, this stream has not 0 but 1 B-frames per P-frames.
Beside this, even if it seems to work OK with 1 or 2 B-frames, the
stream is choppy and unusable with 3 or 4.


My patch fixes the zero-length stream issue, but that's all. I don't
believe it ever gave you a stream with 0 B-frames. I suspect that the
firmware forces a minimum of 1 B-frame.

If you can prove that the older driver actually gave you 0 B-frames,
then I'll take another look. But I believe that the conclusion simply
is that you need a minimum of 1 B-frame.

Regards,

        Hans

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