On 4/15/07, Demian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Xavier,

Here's the attachment.


Thanks, now that I had the opportunity to review your patch, I can thank you
a lot for the small but interesting fixes you did in the doc. Users
contributing documentation are rare, but greatly appreciated, especially
from non native english speakers as we, Ivy commiters, are! So thanks a lot
for your contribution!

I'm really interested in the project.  Maven seems to be too heavy for me
but handling the dependencies would be very useful from ant.

I'm a Java coder, I look forward to using Ivy in my own projects and
seeing where I could contribute to the code base.


Great, glad to see you may find Ivy useful, I'm looking forward to hearing
from you again on this list!

Xavier

Later,
Demian

On 4/15/07, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Demian,
>
> I'm not sure if it's due to my mail client or to yours, but the patch
> has
> additional new lines (lines are wrapped at 80 char or sg like that) so I
> can't apply it easily. Could you provide it through a file attachement
> instead?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Xavier
>
> On 4/15/07, Demian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I made some changes to the features.html, Didn't really move content
> > around,
> > just worked on some minor consistency stuff and wording.
> >
> > Index: features.html
> > ===================================================================
> > --- features.html    (revision 528894)
> > +++ features.html    (working copy)
> > @@ -24,59 +24,59 @@
> >      <script type="text/javascript" src="xooki/xooki.js"></script>
> > </head>
> > <body>
> > -    <textarea id="xooki-source">
> > -<p>Ivy is a very powerful dependencies manager oriented toward java
> > dependency management, even if it can be used to manage dependencies
> of
> > any
> > kind.</p>
> > -<p>If you don't see why you should use a dependency manager at all,
> or
> > have
> > any question concerning Ivy in general, have a look at the <a
> > href=" faq.html">FAQ</a>
> > and at the [[mailing-lists]].</p>
> > -<h1>Integrated with ant</h1>
> > -<p>Of course, Ivy is integrated with the most popular build
> management
> > system for java projects. But the integration goes way beyond common
> ant
> > integration. Indeed Ivy has been designed with ant integration and
> design
> > principles in mind. If you have ant skills, you will have ivy skills!
> The
> > plugin mechanism in ivy follow the same design as ant one, you will
> find
> > macrodef and files import in ivy configuration, many things with which
> ant
> > users are already familiar.<br/>
> > -And since Ivy is now an Apache project, we are getting even closer to
> Ant
> > development.</p>
> > -<h1>Simple to use</h1>
> > -<p>For simple cases, ivy is really simple to use. Declare your
> > dependencies, and that's all. See the <a
> > href="doc/tutorial/start.html">quick start tutorial</a> to check
> yourself,
> > it should take less than 5 minutes!</p>
> > -<p>Ivy can thus be used to bring the dependency management feature of
> > maven
> > to ant build files, for those of you who already use ant and who do
> not
> > want
> > to setup a maven project. But Ivy does not stop here, and provides
> much
> > more
> > great features!</p>
> > -<h1>Clean dependency reports</h1>
> > -<p>Ivy is able to produce mainly two kind of reports: html reports
> and
> > graph reports. HTML reports gives you a good understanding of what ivy
> > did,
> > and which dependencies your project depends upon. The graph reports
> let
> > you
> > have a good overview of the transitive dependencies (see below) and
> > conflicts in your project.</p>
> > -<p>Here are some samples of what ivy generates for you:<br />
> > -<center><br />
> > -<a href="samples/ivy-sample-xslt.xml"><img src="images/ivyfile-
> small.png"
> > title="browsable ivy file through simple xslt"/></a> <a
> > href="images/hibgraph.png" alt="ivyfile"><img src="images/hibgraph-
> > small.png "
> > title="full dependency graph"/></a> <a href="samples/jayasoft-
> > ivyrep-example-default.html" alt="graph"><img src="images/report-
> small.png
> > "
> > title="detailed dependency report" alt="report"/></a><br />
> > -</center></p>
> > -<h1>Non intrusive</h1>
> > -<p>Ivy most common use is to resolve dependencies and copy them in
> the
> > lib
> > dir of your project. Once copied, your build does not depend on ivy
> any
> > more. Thus you can easily migrate existing builds using the lib dir
> > pattern
> > to store dependencies. Moreover, you can easily deliver your project
> with
> > its dependencies so that the build file does not depend on ivy.</p>
> > -<h1>Extremely flexible</h1>
> > -<p>With Ivy, you usually do not have to adapt your project to ivy
> > structure, it's ivy which can be adapted to your environment.</p>
> > -<p>Even if Ivy comes with a lots of default values to work out of the
> > box,
> > you can change many things in ivy. Of course, the dependencies
> > repositories
> > possibilities covers a lot of uses (file system, url based, repository
>
> > chaining, ...). But that's not all. You can change the way ivy finds
> > latest
> > versions of your dependencies, you can change of conflict manager, you
> can
> > choose if you want ivy to copy deps in your project libs or to use
> them
> > directly from ivy cache, ...</p>
> > -<h1>Easily extensible</h1>
> > -<p>When ivy does not what you want out of the box, you can often
> extend
> > it
> > to solve your problem. For instance, you can plug your own repository
> > (like
> > scott haug did for a svn repository now available in ivy tools). But
> you
> > can
> > also defines your own latest strategy and your own conflict manager.
> See
> > <a
> > href="doc/extend.html">how to extend ivy</a> in the reference doc.
> </p>
> > -<p>Since Ivy 1.4 you can even define very easily your own metadata on
> > your
> > modules, with <a href="doc/concept.html#extra">extra
> attributes</a>.</p>
> > -<h1>High performances</h1>
> > -<p>In Ivy, performances have been taken in consideration from the
> > beginning. It uses a cache to avoid downloading twice a dependency,
> its
> > strong conflict management system has been thought to avoid
> downloading a
> > dependency if not necessary, all configuration and ivy file parsing
> are
> > done
> > using SAX for maximum performance, and so on...</p>
> > -<h1>Transitive dependencies</h1>
> > -<p>Imagine you have a component that you often reuse in your software
>
> > developments. Imagine that this component has itself dependencies.
> Then
> > with
> > classical dependencies management, each time you use this component in
> > your
> > software you have to declare it as a dependency, but also all its
> > dependencies.</p>
> > -<p>With ivy it's different: you simply write a dependency file once
> for
> > the
> > component, declaring its own dependencies, then anytime you want to
> use
> > this
> > component you simply have to declare a dependency on it.</p>
> > -<p>And this is even more powerful if the component your software
> depends
> > on
> > changes of dependencies during its own development. Then, without ivy,
> you
> > have to maintain all your components dependencies declaration each
> time
> > the
> > dependencies of this component change. With ivy, you update the ivy
> file
> > of
> > the component and that's it !</p>
> > -<p><i>If you want to quickly start using this feature or simply see
> it in
> > action with real world examples, check the official repository: <a
> href="
> > ivyrep.html">ivyrep</a></i></p>
> > -<h1>Strong conflict management</h1>
> > -<p>The problem with transitive dependencies is that it's sometimes
> > difficult to know exactly which version of a dependency you get,
> because
> > several modules are depending on it in different versions. Ivy
> provides a
> > strong and flexible conflict management engine, which let you easily
> > choose
> > which version should be evicted or kept if its default behaviour does
> not
> > fit your needs. </p>
> > -<p>It is also fully integrated with transitive dependencies
> management,
> > which means that conflicts are solved for each dependency before being
> > solved for your whole module. This  ensures that problematics
> conflicts
> > will
> > only need to solved in the dependency they are encountered.</p>
> > -<h1>Out of the box ibiblio repository support</h1>
> > -<p>Maven users all know this repository, where you can find a lot of
> java
> > projects artifacts. With ivy, you benefit from this repository out of
> the
> > box. But you even benefit from more, since Ivy also uses its <a href="
> > http://ivyrep.jayasoft.org/ ">own repository</a> for dependencies
> metadata,
> > leveraging the power of transitive dependencies.</p>
> > -<h1>Continuous Integration Ready</h1>
> > -<p>Are you working in a continuous integration environment ? No ? You
>
> > should ;-)</p>
> > -<p>If you are working in a continuous integration environment, and if
> you
> > have many projects that depend one on each other, then you are maybe
> > experiencing the dependency management nightmare... Fortunately, ivy
> is
> > there to help !</p>
> > -<p>With ivy you can declare that a component depends on the latest
> > version
> > of another component. Knowing that, ivy will search for the latest
> version
> > of the dependency whenever you ask it to do so. This latest version is
>
> > computed by ivy simply either by checking the date of the dependency
> > versions or by comparing versions as text (either lexicographically or
> > with
> > an algorithm close to the one used in php version_compare
> function).</p>
> > -<h1>Publication handling</h1>
> > -<p>Ivy handles for you the publication of your projects to your
> > repository,
> > as defined in ivy. This simplifies a lot the management of
> multi-project
> > environment.</p>
> > -<h1>Pluggable module descriptor parsers</h1>
> > -<p>Ivy is able to use ivy files as module descriptors, but also
> maven2
> > poms, or even your own module descriptors! This can help you move
> softly
> > from an existing repository of modules to an ivy managed one.</p>
> > -<h1>Unique enterprise features</h1>
> > -<p>Ivy is the only dependency management tool to support powerful
> > features
> > such as repository namespace and building through the install task. A
> <a
> > href="doc/tutorial/build-repository.html">tutorial</a> is dedicated to
> > this
> > feature, and show you how you can build your own repository importing
> data
> > from public one, and converting heterogeneous repositories into a
> stable
> > and
> > homogeneous one.</p>
> > -<h1>Heavily tested</h1>
> > -<p>Ivy benefits from a lot of unit tests checked at each change. It
> is
> > also
> > under heavy tests by the community itself, and bugs reported by the
> > community are often fixed in only a few days.</p>
> > -<h1>Supported by several tools</h1>
> > -<p>A growing number of tools support ivy, see the <a
> > href="links.html">links</a>
> > page for details.</p>
> > -<h1>Free and open source</h1>
> > -<p>Ivy is an incubating Apache project, which means that it's fully
> open
> > sourced, with a business friendly Apache license.</p>
> > -<p>Being open source, you can even modify it for your own needs, and
> make
> > the community benefit from your enhancements if you like.</p>
> > -<h1>Extensively documented</h1>
> > +    <textarea id="xooki-source">
> > +<p>Ivy is a very powerful dependency manager oriented toward Java
> > dependency management, even though it could be used to manage
> dependencies
> > of any kind.</p>
> > +<p>If you don't see why you should use a dependency manager at all,
> or
> > have
> > any question concerning Ivy in general, have a look at the <a
> > href=" faq.html">FAQ</a>
> > and at the [[mailing-lists]].</p>
> > +<h1>Integrated with Ant</h1>
> > +<p>Of course, Ivy is integrated with the most popular build
> management
> > system for Java projects. But the integration goes way beyond common
> Ant
> > integration. Indeed Ivy has been designed with Ant integration and
> design
> > principles in mind. If you have Ant skills, you already have Ivy
> skills!
> > The
> > plugin mechanism in Ivy follows the same design as Ant, you will find
> > macrodef and files import in Ivy configuration, many things with which
> Ant
> > users are already familiar with.<br/>
> > +And since Ivy is now an Apache project, we are getting even closer to
> Ant
> > development.</p>
> > +<h1>Simple to use</h1>
> > +<p>For simple cases, Ivy is easy to use. Declare your dependencies,
> and
> > that's all. See the <a href="doc/tutorial/start.html">quick start
> > tutorial</a> to check yourself, it should take less than 5
> minutes!</p>
> > +<p>Ivy can therefore be used to bring the dependency management
> feature
> > of
> > maven to Ant build files, for those of you who already use Ant and who
> do
> > not want to setup a maven project. But Ivy does not stop there, it
> > provides
> > many more great features!</p>
> > +<h1>Clean dependency reports</h1>
> > +<p>Ivy is able to produce mainly two kind of reports: HTML reports
> and
> > graph reports. HTML reports gives you a good understanding of what Ivy
> > did,
> > and which dependencies your project depends upon. The graph reports
> let
> > you
> > have a good overview of the transitive dependencies (see below) and
> > conflicts in your project.</p>
> > +<p>Here are some samples of what Ivy generates for you:<br />
> > +<center><br />
> > +<a href="samples/ivy-sample-xslt.xml"><img src="images/ivyfile-
> small.png"
> > title="browsable ivy file through simple xslt"/></a> <a
> > href="images/hibgraph.png" alt="ivyfile"><img src="images/hibgraph-
> > small.png "
> > title="full dependency graph"/></a> <a href="samples/jayasoft-
> > ivyrep-example-default.html" alt="graph"><img src="images/report-
> small.png
> > "
> > title="detailed dependency report" alt="report"/></a><br />
> > +</center></p>
> > +<h1>Non intrusive</h1>
> > +<p>Ivy most common use is to resolve dependencies and copy them in
> the
> > lib
> > dir of your project. Once copied, your build does not depend on Ivy
> any
> > more. Thus you can easily migrate existing builds using the lib dir
> > pattern
> > to store dependencies. Moreover, you can easily deliver your project
> with
> > its dependencies so that the build file does not depend on Ivy.</p>
> > +<h1>Extremely flexible</h1>
> > +<p>With Ivy, you usually do not have to adapt your project to Ivy
> > structure, Ivy will conform to your environment.</p>
> > +<p>Even though Ivy comes with a lots of default values to work out of
> the
> > box, you can change many things in Ivy. Of course, the dependencies
> > repositories possibilities covers a lot of uses (file system, URL
> based,
> > repository chaining, ...). But that's not all. You can change the way
> Ivy
> > finds latest versions of your dependencies, you can change of conflict
> > manager, you can choose if you want Ivy to copy dependencies in your
> > project
> > libs or use them directly from Ivy cache, ...</p>
> > +<h1>Easily extensible</h1>
> > +<p>When Ivy does not do what you want out of the box, you can often
> > extend
> > it to solve your problem. For instance, you can plug your own
> repository
> > (like Scott Haug did for a svn repository now available in Ivy tools).
> But
> > you can also define your own latest strategy and your own conflict
> > manager.
> > See <a href="doc/extend.html">how to extend Ivy</a> in the reference
> doc.
> > </p>
> > +<p>Since Ivy 1.4 you can even define very easily your own metadata on
>
> > your
> > modules, with <a href="doc/concept.html#extra">extra
> attributes</a>.</p>
> > +<h1>High performances</h1>
> > +<p>In Ivy, performances have been taken in consideration from the
> > beginning. It uses a cache to avoid downloading twice a dependency,
> its
> > strong conflict management system has been thought to avoid
> downloading a
> > dependency if not necessary, all configuration and Ivy file parsing
> are
> > done
> > using SAX for maximum performance, and so on...</p>
> > +<h1>Transitive dependencies</h1>
> > +<p>Imagine you have a component that you often reuse in your software
> > development. Imagine that this component has dependencies as well.
> Then
> > with
> > classical dependency management, each time you use this component in
> your
> > software you have to declare it as a dependency, but also all its
> > dependencies.</p>
> > +<p>With Ivy it's different: you simply write a dependency file once
> for
> > the
> > component, declaring its own dependencies, then anytime you want to
> use
> > this
> > component you simply have to declare a dependency on it.</p>
> > +<p>And this is even more powerful if the component your software
> depends
> > on
> > changes of dependencies during its own development. Then, without Ivy,
> you
> > have to maintain all your components dependencies declaration each
> time
> > the
> > dependencies of this component change. With Ivy, you update the Ivy
> file
> > of
> > the component and that's it !</p>
> > +<p><i>If you want to quickly start using this feature or simply see
> it in
> > action with real world examples, check the official repository: <a
> href="
> > ivyrep.html">ivyrep</a></i></p>
> > +<h1>Strong conflict management</h1>
> > +<p>The problem with transitive dependencies is that it's sometimes
> > difficult to know exactly which version of a dependency you get,
> because
> > several modules are depending on it in different versions. Ivy
> provides a
> > strong and flexible conflict management engine, which let you easily
> > choose
> > which version should be evicted or kept if its default behaviour does
> not
> > fit your needs. </p>
> > +<p>It is also fully integrated with transitive dependencies
> management,
> > which means that conflicts are solved for each dependency before being
> > solved for your whole module. This  ensures that problematic conflicts
>
> > will
> > only need to solved in the dependency they are encountered.</p>
> > +<h1>Out of the box ibiblio repository support</h1>
> > +<p>Maven users all know this repository, where you can find a lot of
> Java
> > projects artifacts. With Ivy, you benefit from this repository out of
> the
> > box. But you even benefit from more, since Ivy also uses its <a href="
> > http://ivyrep.jayasoft.org/ ">own repository</a> for dependencies
> metadata,
> > leveraging the power of transitive dependencies.</p>
> > +<h1>Continuous Integration Ready</h1>
> > +<p>Are you working in a continuous integration environment? No? You
> > should
> > ;-)</p>
> > +<p>If you are working in a continuous integration environment, and if
> you
> > have many projects that depend one on each other, then you are maybe
> > experiencing the dependency management nightmare... Fortunately, Ivy
> is
> > there to help !</p>
> > +<p>With Ivy you can declare that a component depends on the latest
> > version
> > of another component. Knowing that, Ivy will search for the latest
> version
> > of the dependency whenever you ask it to do so. This latest version is
>
> > computed by Ivy  either by checking the date of the dependency
> versions or
> > by comparing versions as text (either lexicographically or with an
> > algorithm
> > close to the one used in php version_compare function).</p>
> > +<h1>Publication handling</h1>
> > +<p>Ivy handles for you the publication of your projects to your
> > repository,
> > as defined in Ivy. This simplifies a lot the management of
> multi-project
> > environment.</p>
> > +<h1>Pluggable module descriptor parsers</h1>
> > +<p>Ivy is able to use Ivy files as module descriptors, but also
> maven2
> > POMs, or even your own module descriptors! This can help you move
> softly
> > from an existing repository of modules to an Ivy managed one.</p>
> > +<h1>Unique enterprise features</h1>
> > +<p>Ivy is the only dependency management tool to support powerful
> > features
> > such as repository namespace and building through the install task. A
> <a
> > href="doc/tutorial/build-repository.html">tutorial</a> is dedicated to
> > this
> > feature, and show you how you can build your own repository importing
> data
> > from public one, and converting heterogeneous repositories into a
> stable
> > and
> > homogeneous one.</p>
> > +<h1>Heavily tested</h1>
> > +<p>Ivy benefits from a lot of unit tests checked at each code
> > modification.
> > It is also under heavy testing by the community itself, and bugs
> reported
> > by
> > the community are often fixed in only a few days.</p>
> > +<h1>Supported by several tools</h1>
> > +<p>A growing number of tools support Ivy, see the <a
> > href="links.html">links</a>
> > page for details.</p>
> > +<h1>Free and open source</h1>
> > +<p>Ivy is an incubating Apache project, which means that it's fully
> open
> > sourced, with a business friendly Apache license.</p>
> > +<p>Being open source, you can even modify it for your own needs, and
> let
> > the community benefit from your enhancements if you like.</p>
> > +<h1>Extensively documented</h1>
> > <p>With Ivy, not only the tool is free and open source, but you also
> have
> > access to a documentation of about 120 pages in its printer friendly
> > version
> > for free!</p></textarea>
> > <script type="text/javascript">xooki.postProcess();</script>
> > </body>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Demian L. Neidetcher
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Learn Ivy at ApacheCon: http://www.eu.apachecon.com/
> Manage your dependencies with Ivy!
> http://incubator.apache.org/ivy/
>



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