Is there any way to include this from another file? What I am thinking of is 
that we have a properties file filled with the default versions of third party 
dependencies that our build wants to use. We have different build tracks, 
corresponding to different installable portions of our system, where people may 
decide that they want to override the original third party dependencies. It 
seems that this would be possible with this system. I am concerned that I will 
end up with conflicts, however, and not know it nor really understand the 
implications of these conflicts.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xavier Hanin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: specify versions separate from dependencies
>
> I've started working on this, and come close to a solution. To finalize my
> work, we need to decide upon the syntax we want to use in Ivy files to
> support transitive dependency override mechanism.
>
> After some more thoughts on the feature and how it relates to existing Ivy
> features, I think we now have 3 different ways to influence transitive
> dependencies in an Ivy file:
> - transitive dependency exclusion (IVY-431), introduced in 2.0.0-alpha1.
> This feature relies on an 'exclude' tag directly under the 'dependencies'
> element.
> - setting specific conflict managers for transitive dependencies. This
> relies on a 'conflicts' element and its child elements 'manager'.
> - overriding version and/or branch of transitive dependencies. In the
> implementation, I've opened the door to more feature than that, by
> implementing a dependency descriptor mediator mechanism. Whenever we load a
> module descriptor dependency descriptors to resolve them, we first ask all
> the dependers to mediate each dependency descriptor. Then we use the
> mediated dependency descriptor to resolve the dependency, instead of the
> original one. For the moment I've only implemented one mediator, called
> override. But we could later imagine other kinds of mediation which happens
> before actual dependency resolution. For the moment I've used this syntax
> for this new feature:
>     <engine-hints>
>         <mediation>
>             <override org="yourorg" module=".*1" matcher="regexp"
> branch="BRANCH" rev="1.0" />
>         </mediation>
>     </engine-hints>
> This section is put directly under ivy-module element. What I would like to
> do is group the three kind of transitive dependencies hints we can give to
> the resolve engine in an ivy file. I'm still wondering what is the best
> syntax, and if we can afford deprecating the syntax of conflicts and module
> wide exclude. If we agree to deprecate them, here's one idea for the new
> syntax:
> <ivy-module>
>   <dependencies>
>     <dependency ... />
>     <dependency ... />
>     ...
>     <hints>
>       <exclude org="" module="" matcher="" ... />
>       <conflict org="" module="" matcher="" rev|manager="" />
>       <override org="" module="" matcher="" branch="" rev="" />
>     </hints>
>   </dependencies>
> </ivy-module>
> The conflict tag is similar to the current conflicts/manager tag, except
> that the 'name' attribute is replaced by 'manager'.
> All three kind of hints share the same attribute triple (org - module -
> matcher). The usage of this uple is slightly different in exclude, where it
> also applied to other attributes, such as artifact (to name the artifacts to
> exclude transitively).
>
> Another approach would be to put the hints section directly under ivy-module
> instead of under dependencies (as it's the case for conflicts/manager
> today). I think I prefer the former approach I propose.
>
> This is open to discussion, please give your feedback, once 2.0 will be out
> we won't be able to go back.
>
> Xavier
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Harald Braumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:23:50 +0100
> > "Xavier Hanin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Could you open an issue about that?
> >
> > Here it is: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-753
> >
> > harry
> >
>
>
>
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> Xavier Hanin - Independent Java Consultant
> http://xhab.blogspot.com/
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