I like how you have presented pro's of both (Ant + Ivy) and Maven.

My personal experience have been that Ivy WORKS :-). I've seen many projects trying to use Maven and crash and burn..imagine a build/dependency management system, which is so crippling and brittle.

My favorite quote from someone using Maven was:

"/I understood the technology of the project in not time. It took me ages to figure out how Maven works. Doing simple things is very hard. It's very buggy and has horrendous documentation/"

I know you can't state this in your presentation, but just wanted to let you know that I'm glad Ivy is around for us to use with Ant.

--Vishal

Xavier Hanin wrote:
Thanks to your feedback I've updated the slides to integrate your
suggestions. I haven't tested if I'll have enough time with those slides, it
may be a bit too long now.

Tell me what you think would be the best to cut down if I need time. And
give me your feedback on the changes, especially on Maven / Ivy comparison,
I wan't to be as fair as possible, so I'll welcome any comment.

Thanks for your time,

- Xavier

On 3/9/07, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Ivy users,

As you probablu alreaday know I'll give a talk at next ApacheCon Europe :
http://www.eu.apachecon.com/program/talk/47

I've just started preparing the slides, and I would like to gather some
feedback. Obviously without the talk it's more difficult to get an opinion, but anyway, if you have time the very early draft of the slides is available
here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ivy/core/trunk/doc/presentations/apache-con-2007/slides.ppt

Any feedback would be strongly appreciated!

- Xavier



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