Hi Andy,

For external codebases brought into the ASF I think the Incubator PMC 
needs some involvement these days. That doesn't necessarily imply that the 
code needs to incubate. There's a lighter weight IP clearance [1] process 
which can be used for contributions to an existing project. That said, I 
think there's some expectation that the code also comes in with a 
community to support it. I'd be concerned if the code is orphaned or in 
hibernation from day one or soon after. If there are folks who are (or are 
interested in becoming) active here including yourself that will volunteer 
to maintain the code, answer user questions, etc... now and in the future 
that's great. If not, then perhaps what Neil suggested (Apache Labs) is a 
better idea.

Thanks.

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html

Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
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Andy Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/19/2007 09:26:14 PM:

> Hello, Xerces-J! It has been a long time since I've
> been active in the Xerces community, or even posted to
> this mailing list. The primary reason being that I just
> don't have the free time I did in years past. New jobs
> and new interests have kept me busy and prevented me
> from working consistently on the NekoHTML[1] project.
> 
> However, during that time, interest in NekoHTML has
> remained and many users have inquired about the future
> of the code. Since I don't have as much time to work on
> the project as before, I am at a crossroads wondering
> what to do with the project.
> 
> It has always been my wish to donate the code to the
> Xerces-J project so that it's an integrated part of the
> parser project and is available to all users of Xerces.
> In the past, when I suggested donating the code it was
> requested that I go through the Incubator process.
> 
> Putting aside the fact that taking code through the
> Incubator process is a long, laborious process, I never
> felt that the Incubator was an appropriate place for
> NekoHTML for a number of reasons. First, the purpose of
> the Incubator has been to ensure that an incoming project
> develops a strong community made up of not only of the
> original developers but also from members of the Apache
> community. However, NekoHTML is the work of a single
> person.
> 
> Second, the NekoHTML parser is a self-contained and
> complete set of code. No additional work needs to be
> done and therefore no community needed to develop it
> further. Aside from minor bug fixes and the occasional
> updates needed for API changes in the Xerces Native
> Interface (XNI), NekoHTML has been solid and in use by
> many projects and products since its inception in 2002.
> 
> So the question remains: what do I do with the code
> moving forward?
> 
> My preference is to have it adopted by the Xerces-J
> project. Very little effort would be required to
> integrate it into the project and minimal resources
> would be needed to keep it in sync with changes to
> Xerces-J in the future. But the benefit to users
> would be tremendous. They would have the ability to
> parse HTML documents using the same APIs and tools
> that they use for parsing XML documents today. And
> since it's built on XNI, it's uniquely integrated
> with the Xerces-J parser and its infrastructure.
> 
> Regardless of my personal preference, I leave it up
> to the community to decide whether it becomes part of
> the Xerces-J project. If you feel that it's not the
> right place for the code, that's fine. In that case,
> I'll start a project at SourceForge so that NekoHTML
> has a permanent home for future development.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~andyc/neko/doc/html/
> 
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> Andy Clark * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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