On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Michael Glavassevich
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Mukul,
>
> I think it would be ideal if Xerces shipped with something that worked out
> of the box, so would be nice if in the release that assertions could work
> with JDK 1.3 like the rest of Xerces. That doesn't mean that the main
> development stream of PsychoPath would need to stick to that level and
> certainly wouldn't expect that the Eclipse developers would want to bend
> over backwards to support it. I think it would be sufficient to produce a
> Java 1.3 compatible version at a point where PsychoPath has reasonable
> conformance to XPath 2.0 and include that with Xerces. I believe we could
> get away with only doing that once and telling users in the documentation to
> go to eclipse.org to download newer versions which may have higher JDK
> requirements than Xerces and also about where they can get Saxon if they
> want it to use it instead.
>

+1

Thanks,
Hiranya

>
>
> As to what level the main development of PsychoPath in Eclipse really
> should support, I think the folks discussing this should keep in mind that
> Sun is not the only Java runtime vendor / producer. There are others: IBM,
> Apache Harmony, GNU Classpath, etc... which may be at different stages of
> development / support of the various levels of Java and may support those
> further into the future than Sun does. Even Sun provides support [1] past
> those quoted EOL dates so the actual lifetimes of runtimes (from Sun or
> elsewhere) at Java 1.3, 1.4, 5, 6, etc.. levels may be much longer than
> that. Developers often have no choice in the matter, having to write new
> code for a larger project that must run with an older version of Java. That
> isn't to say that Java 1.3 is a good choice for PsychoPath, but that there
> are other factors that one should consider in making the decision besides
> the opinion of a handful of people on a Bugzilla issue who may or may not
> really be representative of the community who would be using (or developing)
> the software.
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] http://www.sun.com/software/javaseforbusiness/support.jsp
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: [email protected]
> E-mail: [email protected]
>
> Mukul Gandhi <[email protected]> wrote on 06/18/2009 11:35:11 PM:
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >    I recently raised this bug request with the PsychoPath team, to
> > support JDK 1.3 (ref,
> > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=280798). Please also see
> > this blog entry about this,
> > http://intellectualcramps.blogspot.com/2009/06/should-psychopath-
> > support-jre-13.html.
> >
> > The reason I raised this request with PsychoPath is, because at
> > Xerces-J we currently support JDK 1.3.
> >
> > PsychoPath community seems to think, they can support a minimum JDK
> > level of JDK 1.4 (though the discussion is still underway at the above
> > Eclipse bug request). If anybody would like to participate at the
> > above bug request, that would be great.
> >
> > What should be the Xerces-J community's official position regarding
> > PsychoPath's JRE version compliance? We can later communicate that to
> > the PsychoPath forum.
> >
> > In case PsychoPath complies to minimum JRE 1.4, then Xerces-J Java 1.3
> > users won't be able to use Xerces-J assertions.
> >
> > One solution I could think for Xerces-J is:
> >
> > We keep the current PsychoPath JAR (which is JRE 1.3 compliant) on the
> > server (perhaps also as part of our future XML Schema 1.1
> > implementation). We also ship another PsychoPath JAR (and update it
> > periodically, in line with Eclipse PsychoPath releases) with Xerces-J
> > which will require say min JRE 1.4, to get benefits of better XPath
> > 2.0 compliance.
> >
> > i.e., we ship two JARs with Xerces-J. One with Java 1.3 support (with
> > lesser XPath 2.0 compliance, which is presently residing on the Xerces
> > SVN server) and another in sync with Eclipse version (which would have
> > better XPath 2.0 compliance, as PsychoPath enhances). In case we do
> > this, we can have a FAQ entry on the Xerces-J site, explaining this to
> > our users.
> >
> > It would be great, if we confirm our official position in this regard,
> > and communicate that to the PsychoPath team.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Mukul Gandhi
> >
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