On Tuesday, July 31, 2001, at 07:34 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

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> We could also work on making a skeletal version of log4j that
> could be very small. I think we should work in this in the context
> of the highly successful logging project we already have instead
> of trying to roll yet another logging interface that is non-standard.

i would really like to see something like that adopted but it's much more 
important to me that i *can* use log4j for logging for the projects in 
commons (without having to rewrite them, of course ;-)

what worries me is that you only need a few -1's to produce stalemate (see 
the way the voting went)
i have a bad feeling that log4j (or indeed) any choice of logging will end 
up being vetoed :(

in the light of this i think that an interface (hopefully based on the 
log4j Category signature) is the best way forward for the moment.

- robert

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