----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SUBMIT] digester logging patch
> on 8/15/01 1:55 AM, "Vincent Massol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The problem is not so much the size of the jars that you need to bring
in
> > but rather the fact that you have to bring them in ...
> >
> > Do we agee on that need ?
>
> No!
>
> The reason why is because a few of us are working towards bringing CJAN
into
> Jakarta which makes the need for bringing them in on their own: zero.
hum ... Jon, I was thinking about external users of our frameworks not we
developers inside Jakarta land ...
the majority of the users (99%) don't want to be bothered with this internal
logging thing, they just want to use our framework and they don't want any
additional complexity : getting log4j, configuring it, ... Agreed, it could
be bundled with the distribution. However, commons is about frameworks, not
applications, which means persons will take our jar (like cactus.jar) and
bring it in their own environment ... and then ... will also need to bring
in log4j and it's configuration.
>
> -jon
-Vincent
