Hello Matt,

I have not personally tested your libs yet. But looks like you've done a
great job in accomplishing everything in jal.

As Vasi, I'm too looking for a data logging application. I might need to
create one file each per day so, its not going to be more than 365 per year
and I don't need long file names.
The process would be to create a new text file daily, append data and then
close the file say every hour.

Can this functionality be accomplished with your libs or do I have to do
lots more additional work ?

Sunish

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:49 AM, mattschinkel <[email protected]>wrote:

> I can put a constant in my lib for using long/short file names because
> of the patent.  I don't quite understand if reading long file names is
> ok. I know writing them is not ok.
>
> The patent says "long AND short filenames", but the work around uses
> "long OR short filenames" or something like that. I was planning to
> read more about the technical stuff. Here is some detail on the work
> around http://lwn.net/Articles/338981/
>
> I heard that the royalty fee for FAT32 is $0.50 per product sold.
>
> Short file names is fine for logging data, but it is not so good for a
> product user. 8 letters is not really enough to describe something.
>
> Matt.
>
> On Jul 30, 11:37 pm, William <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > OK, I read your link - indeed there is an issue with 'long file
> > names'.  However the elm-chan provides 'long file names' as a separate
> > feature, so if you stay with short file names, you should be OK.
> > Please read his statements about this here:
> >
> > http://elm-chan.org/fsw/ff/en/appnote.html
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > William
> >
> > On Jul 30, 6:40 pm, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > William, Read this:
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/firmware/fatgendown.mspx
> >
> > > You can read about MS vs TomTom
> >
> > > This VFAT does some things to get around the patent. Here is a good
> > > description.http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4980952387.html
> >
> > > Vasi, my lib is quite simple to use and user friendly :) By changing
> > > the constants in my sample, I can get my fat32 to run at 6594 program
> > > memory, and 399 ram. This is small enough for any 18F.
> >
> > > Matt.
> >
> > > On Jul 30, 3:17 pm, William <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > I don't think there is any royalty issue with fat32?  I can mount
> such
> > > > volumes in Ubunu/Linux without any royalty fees and create files and
> > > > filenames.
> >
> > > > Fat32 files are not necessarily contiguous.  So be careful if you
> want
> > > > to try and write-over an existing fat32 file with a low-level
> > > > library.  Check out Elm-Chan's petite library -- he made a nice GPS
> > > > data logger for Atmel/Arduino cpu.    His full-featured library fits
> > > > on my 18F parts (in C), so should be doable in JAL also.
> >
> > > > William
>
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