Hi Vasile,

of course! In some way, you can check it right now: Compare the format library, 
which still uses divisions, to the print library (integer routines). My 
intension is not primarily to add bells and whistles, but to save resources. 
You can compile a program using the print library for the 10f200 chip if you 
limit the decimal conversion to 1 byte. 

When I did my own print library, I mainly wanted it to be more flexible. I was 
impressed by the possibility of using byte*256 sized numbers, and wanted to 
convert those to decimal. When I was finished however, we discussed both 
libraries. My new library could output bigger numbers, worked remarkably 
faster, and used less both code and data space. Therefore, as there was not a 
single advantage on the old library, it was decided to replace it.

I did in fact measure the instruction cycles both libraries needed to convert 
every single number that can be stored in a dword. The old library was indeed 
faster - when converting "0". For all of the other 4294967294 numbers, my 
library was faster ;-)

And Rob, as usual I had some extras in mind, you guessed some of them :-) 

I was, however, thinking about constants with defaults that one could define, 
or use variables, if during runtime different output styles are needed.
About like this:

FORMAT_THOUSANDS=","   -- or "'", or " ", or 0 if none wanted
FORMAT_DECIMAL="."
FORMAT_PLUS_SIGN=0    -- or " " to always reserve space for the sign, or "+" to 
always display a sign
FORMAT_LEADER="0"  -- char with wich a right-aligned number is padded, usually 
"0" or " "


In general, I really do want format to work the way it does now, displaying a 
decimal separator wherever I want it. I like to use fixed-point math. Right 
now, my thermometer has to transmit the measurements in millicelsius. I really 
would prefer having a decimal point (or comma). There is a special procedure in 
format.jal which is there for outputting certain digits out of a number. That's 
helpful for my thermometer, which can do the math internally in millicelsius 
but can easily be written to a display with only one digit after the point. 
Again, without using divisions. I hate divisions, they're using so much 
resources. ;-)

Greets,
Kiste


Am Dienstag, 22. Dezember 2020, 18:40:22 MEZ hat vsurducan 
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Hi Oliver,
Can we check your improvements first for the resources used?  The experience of 
the last 20 years on jal shows that biggest improvements can not be used 
anymore on small pics...
The length of the number (in my way of understanding) depends on the output 
device type. On some is useless to have too many numbers. On a LCD display I do 
not see any requiring a 9 digit  (except perhaps displaying  a frequency) . On 
the other hand, on a serial console it might be useful for something...
thx,
Vasile

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 1:59 PM 'Oliver Seitz' via jallib 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all :-)
> 
> It's been nine days and nine years since the original print library was 
> finally replaced by my version. I remember, I've said then, that I would also 
> do the format library soon. I feel like it's about time now...
> 
> So, usually when I start thinking about improvement, I'm focused on mimicking 
> the current behavior as close as possible. Yet... This is what it currently 
> does:
> 
> format_sdword(output,12345678, 6,0) ->     5678
> format_sdword(output,12345678, 7,0) -> �45678
> format_sdword(output,12345678, 7,1) -> �4567.8
> format_sdword(output,12345678, 8,0) -> C345678
> format_sdword(output,12345678, 8,1) -> C34567.8
> format_sdword(output,12345678, 8,2) -> C3456.78
> format_sdword(output,12345678, 9,0) -> 12345678
> format_sdword(output,12345678, 9,1) -> 1234567.8
> format_sdword(output,12345678, 9,2) -> 123456.78
> format_sdword(output,12345678,10,0) ->  12345678
> format_sdword(output,12345678,10,1) ->  1234567.8
> format_sdword(output,12345678,10,2) ->  123456.78
> format_sdword(output,12345678,11,0) ->   12345678
> format_sdword(output,12345678,11,1) ->   1234567.8
> format_sdword(output,12345678,11,2) ->   123456.78
> format_sdword(output,12345678,12,0) ->   12345678
> format_sdword(output,12345678,12,1) ->   1234567.8
> format_sdword(output,12345678,12,2) ->   123456.78
> format_sdword(output,12345678,13,0) ->   12345678
> format_sdword(output,12345678,13,1) ->   1234567.8
> format_sdword(output,12345678,13,2) ->   123456.78
> 
> The third parameter, said to give the field length to be used, is quite 
> limited:
> 
> 1) The actual length differs, depending on the presence of a decimal point
> 2) Length greater than 11 is treated as 11
> 3) Too short a field leads to corruption of the number, always reserving 
> places for sign and decimal point
> 
> 3) probably can't be of any use - here's the question if the number should be 
> truncated or replaced by error signs to show that something's wrong.
> 
> For 1) and 2), there's a possibility that existing programs rely on this 
> behavior. But, as those are 'undocumented "features" ', I feel like they can 
> be replaced by more useful things. Like, fields can be as long as 255 
> characters, and the number is truly right-aligned, if it has decimals or not.
> 
> If the number of decimals is greater than the field lengt-1, it is treated as 
> zero. Here's another option to fill: what should be done if both numbers are 
> nearly-equal, equal or the decimals number greater than the field length? 
> Left-aligned, ignoring the field length?
> 
> Any preferences anyone? 
> 
> Greets,
> Kiste
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