An analog clock with hands usually *never* shows the right time, unless it 
doesn't run, only then it shows the correct time twice a day.

And no, the internet time is not synced to an atomic clock, but to a network of 
atomic clocks around the world.

Greets,
Kiste



Am Freitag, 23. April 2021, 11:40:30 MESZ hat vsurducan <[email protected]> 
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Eur, an analog clock which does tic-tac, shows accurate time twice per day. It 
does not need synch. :)
The real question is how we do know that the network time is accurate indeed? 
It is synchronized with an atomic clock? :)
best wishes,

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:31 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
> Thanks for all the information.
> I have to read a lot.
> Till then I buy a cheap timer in the shop on the corner.
> Peter
> 
> Op dinsdag 20 april 2021 om 09:45:10 UTC+2 schreef Eur van Andel:
>> Hi Zet
>> 
>> Olivier Seitz has said a lot of useful things about keeping time already. I 
>> can add that some  PIC18Fs have hardware real time clocks, some even with 
>> support for a 32kHz watch crystal on special pins. This will be accurate to 
>> minutes per year. 
>> 
>> Keeping time is of no use without syncing. That also holds for calendars. 
>> Syncing is so important for agriculture that several ancient civilisations 
>> spent insane amounts of work erecting huge stones to sync their calendars 
>> with the orbit of the planet. 
>> 
>> If you want to sync your time, you need to connect to a network. I do this 
>> in several ways:
>> 
>> - with an RN171 wifi module, which is end-of-life, so not recommended
>> - with an ESP32 which is cheap but overkill
>> - with a SIM800L GSM module, which needs a SIM card
>> 
>> SIM cards with data prices of €0.01/MB can be bought for €10 at keepgo.com
>> The SIM800L can be bought on AliExpress for €2
>> I wrote a library for the SIM800, which I can add to jallib if you are 
>> interested. The SIM800 is 2G only, so your country should still support 
>> that. Europe does. 
>> 
>> The mobile network knows both the time, the time zone and the local DST. 
>> (Daylight Savings Time)
>> 
>> A low cost solution could be a local “Stonehenge” with a narrow slit and a 
>> small solar cell that gives a good signal in direct sunlight. This would 
>> require a fixed location for the hardware and an unobstructed view to (a 
>> part of) the southern sky. You will also have to do some astronomical 
>> calculations. The Druids in England did those 5000 years ago, without the 
>> internet, so that won’t be too hard. 
>> 
>> You will be on solar time and syncing with a calendar will be hard, next to 
>> impossible. So when the DST kicks in will be unknown. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Apr 2021, at 23:23:03, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does a library excist with timezone Amsterdam so the microprocessor can use 
>>> it to send an order to start or stop a device every day at the same time? 
>>> 
>> 
>>  
>> ---
>> ir EE van Andel [email protected]  http://www.fiwihex.nl
>> Fiwihex B.V. Wierdensestraat 74, NL7604BK Almelo, Netherlands
>> tel+31-653-286573
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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