Hi Hans,

I had a look at your program. The procedure called 'Basis' raises some 
questions.

It starts with two start bits (both 'hoog') but the third bit is a toggle bit. 
If you press a key on the remote control and you keep it pressed. The same 
command is repeated with the same toggle bit. The receiver then knows that it 
is still the same command. As soon as you release a key and press it again, the 
toggle bit changes. In your 'basis' the toggle bit is always the same so your 
device thinks you are repeated the same command.

Next to that do you know the RC5 device address? In your 'basis' you use 
low-low-high-low-high to the device has address 0x05 which is a VCR so I assume 
you are controlling a VCR. If  not you should change 'basis'.

You can find the RC5 addresses on wikipedia.

For the rest it seems to be OK. One thing that can be a problem is the opto 
coupler. It will invert your bits and I do not know if the infrared received in 
your device does the same. If not then you should invert all bits in 'hoog' and 
'laag'.

Kind regards,

Rob

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Verzonden: woensdag 16 juni 2021 20:39
Aan: jallib <[email protected]>
Onderwerp: Re: [jallib] RC5 lib


Hi Rob,

I've tried a few things but it's not as easy as I thought. Simply removing the 
IR receiver and replacing it with an optocoupler will not work. There's 
something behind it with no license plates. So I put the case back together and 
checked with a standard remote. He's working again. End of story : I do need a 
lib for the normal IR operation. If it can send and receive. I hope you have 
the time for it.

Here is what i have done.

 I have a very old RC5 reader and on that one the data reeceived is correct, 
adres and commands. But not on the one i like to use. (as i said above)

-- Title: RC5 test

--



-- ------------------------------------------------------

--

--

include 16f877a                     -- target PICmicro

--



pragma target clock 20_000_000      -- oscillator frequency

--

pragma target OSC      HS                        -- crystal or resonator

pragma target WDT      DISABLED                  -- watchdog

pragma target DEBUG    DISABLED                  -- no debugging

pragma target BROWNOUT DISABLED                  -- no brownout reset

pragma target LVP      DISABLED---ENABLED                   -- low voltage 
programming

--



enable_digital_io()                 -- make all pins digital I/O



-- library with delay procedures

include delay



alias RC5    is pin_D2

pin_D2_direction  = output

RC5 = low





include delay                         -- fetch delay library

--

 procedure HOOG is

 RC5 = low

 _usec_delay(889)

 RC5 = high

  _usec_delay(889)

  end procedure



  procedure LAAG is

 RC5 = high

 _usec_delay(889)

 RC5 = low

  _usec_delay(889)

  end procedure



  procedure BASIS is

  hoog

  hoog

  laag

  laag

  laag

  hoog

  laag

  hoog

  end procedure



  procedure   START_PAUZE is

  for 10 loop

  basis

  hoog

  hoog

  laag

  hoog

  laag

  hoog

  delay_1mS(114)

  end loop

  end procedure



  procedure STOP is

  for 10 loop

  basis

  hoog

  hoog

  laag

  hoog

  hoog

  laag

  delay_1mS(114)

  end loop

  end procedure



  procedure VOLGENDE is

  for 10 loop

  basis

  hoog

  laag

  laag

  laag

  laag

  laag

  delay_1mS(114)

  end loop

  end procedure





   delay_1S(5)

   forever loop



   start_pauze

   delay_1S(2)

   start_pauze

   delay_1S(2)

   start_pauze

   delay_1S(2)

   stop

   delay_1S(2)

   volgende

   delay_1S(2)

   start_pauze

   delay_1S(2)

   stop

   delay_1S(5)



   end loop









Thanks again.

regards

Hans

Op woensdag 16 juni 2021 om 08:04:59 UTC+2 schreef [email protected]:
Hi Hans,

I understand what you are doing so you do not need the 36 kHz carrier. That 
makes it even simpler. In that case you only need a timer to generate the RC5 
bi-phase signal. Will you be able to do that or do you need some help with that?

Met vriendelijke groet,
Rob Jansen
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<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 9:54:26 PM
To: jallib <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [jallib] RC5 lib



Hi Rob,

Thanks for responding, even though you're on vacation. First some more 
information. I have a device that I normally operate with push buttons, but 
that can also work with RC5 if i connect  a Tsop1836 on it, for example. I also 
have the codes used for address and commands. So I want to use a Pic as a 
transmitter.

Actually I don't need the whole IR part  because I can also connect an output 
of the PIC directly to the RC5 input of the device.. I have already found the 
information about what the pulse train should look like.

At least it keeps the gray matter flexible.

Greetings and have a nice holiday

Hans

Op dinsdag 15 juni 2021 om 18:31:02 UTC+2 schreef [email protected]:
Hi Hans,

Some years ago (in 2014 to be exact) I wrote a decoder routine that is capable 
of decoding RC5 and RC6 messages. It works on an interrupt basis. I wrote two 
variants, one using Timer 0 and one using Timer 1. I attached the sources files 
in the attached zip file.

I could make a JAL library out of it - since these source files are not yet 
Jallib compilant - and make it part of Jallib. I could then incorporate the 
timer part in the decoder part so that you only have one library to include.

Currently I am enjoying my vacation so I am not able to test them but I think 
they work. The main program uses a USART to write the received RC5 or RC6 
message. The UART part is also included in the zip file.

I could make an RC5 and RC6 encoder program since I have done that in the past 
because I have worked at Philips many years ago and was one of the contributors 
of the Philips RC6 standard 🙂. As you may know, for the encoder you need a 36 
kHz modulated signal to drive the Infra Red LED so you need a PWM signal for 
that.

Kind regards,

Rob





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Verzonden: dinsdag 15 juni 2021 10:49
Aan: jallib <[email protected]>
Onderwerp: [jallib] RC5 lib

Is there beside the SIRC lib also one for sending/receiving RC5 ?

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