Hi Rob,
My shadows are getting longer, but the sun is still shining.
regards
Hans

Op zondag 10 juli 2022 om 09:43:45 UTC+2 schreef [email protected]:

> Very nice Hans and good to see that it works.
>
> You should start a solar farm 🙂
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
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> *Van:* [email protected] <[email protected]> namens hans <
> [email protected]>
> *Verzonden:* zaterdag 9 juli 2022 17:35
>
> *Aan:* jallib <[email protected]>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] sun power use
>
> Hello all,
>
> Here is the solar panel I will be using. I just went back to 12 volts and 
> a small lead acid battery. One motor drives the axis that is parallel to 
> the Earth's axis and follows the sun. Actually the screen should go 24 
> degrees up (June) and 24 degrees down (December) but I did some 
> measurements and the gain is too small for me to do anything about it.
>
> Anyway, Jal lets things run smoothly again and now we just have to wait 
> and see if the weather gods accept this thing.
>
> regards
>
> Hans[image: zon_set.jpg]
>
> Op woensdag 29 juni 2022 om 17:28:57 UTC+2 schreef hans:
>
> Hello
>   Kiste
> I still have to come up with something to switch off in time due to too 
> low voltage, but you did wake me up. Thank you.
> Vasile
> Years ago I had a larger solar panel rotate with the sun. I did the 
> incline manually. However, the rotating construction must be very heavy and 
> in a big storm I was only just able to save the case
> Near us there is a park with 12 such panels, it was always surprising that 
> they are never all in the right direction. A technician in this field told 
> me that the added value in yield is almost lost at the cost price of the 
> installation and that they now just use fixed panels.
> And nevertheless it is very nice to be working on this. The application of 
> the MPPT is again its news for me.
> thanks everyone
> regards
> Hans
>
> Op woensdag 29 juni 2022 om 16:22:16 UTC+2 schreef vasile:
>
> About keeping up with consumption, PV has to (i) charge the battery and 
> (ii) supply your board.
> If you really want to try something new, then a two axis tracking system 
> will improve your charging by about 40% with the same PV. 
> Why? Because the PV will stay oriented to the sun, except for minor clouds 
> and heavy rain when everything will be disintegrated :) 
>
> https://www.banggood.com/Smart-Solar-Tracking-Equipment-Maker-Project-DIY-Kit-Technology-for-Arduino-p-1952195.html
>  
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 4:39 PM 'Oliver Seitz' via jallib <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> it's true, you don't need to worry about charging, but you do need to 
> worry about stopping discharging. LiPos may explode if overcharged or 
> over-discharged. The device you've bought has both- charge and discharge 
> controller. But, with your extra wires, you're discharging the LiPo 
> directly without the discharge controller. That is ok, if you're really 
> sure the LiPo will never go empty. If you're not so sure about that, you 
> would need a way to stop discharging at a certain voltage, like 2.6V. 
> Really switching electronics off to only keep drawing few nanoamperes is 
> possible, but not always easy.
>
> Greets,
> Kiste
>
> Am Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2022, 12:34:35 MESZ hat hans <[email protected]> 
> Folgendes geschrieben: 
>
>
> Hi Rob,
> The set has both a solar panel and a lipo battery, so I don't have to 
> worry about charging. I'm just curious if the solar panel can keep up with 
> the consumption. I can also charge it via USB.
> By the way very nice to see a project, most of the contributions are very 
> abstract. 
> Kind regards
> Hans
>
> Op woensdag 29 juni 2022 om 11:44:28 UTC+2 schreef [email protected]:
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> Don't make it more complex than it is. An MPPT (Maximum Power Point 
> Tracking) is used on solar panels to get the most out of it but you do not 
> have to add such a device.
>
> If I am right a Lipo battery needs a certain way of charging and so you 
> need a special Lipo battery charger.
>
> I made a Cat repellent some time ago using a small solar panel. And since 
> I am using three NiMh batteries (so 3.6 Volt) I use a small charging 
> current for keeping the batteries charged. The batteries are connected to 
> the solar panel only via a diode (Shottkey in this case because it has a 
> low voltage drop).
>
> For your info. You can find the schematic diagram here: 
> https://www.instructables.com/Cat-Repellent/
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
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> [email protected]>
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 29 juni 2022 11:22
> *Aan:* jallib <[email protected]>
>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] sun power use
> Such a prompt response! I bought a solar charger with a built-in 5000mAh 
> battery. It delivers a beautiful 5 Volt but with a minimum load of 150 mA. 
> Opened the case and the lipo delivers 3.5 Volts. So I soldered a few more 
> wires to it. Hence my question. It's still so much fun.
> Now i have to discover what a  MPPT is.
> regards
> Hans
>
> Op woensdag 29 juni 2022 om 09:59:30 UTC+2 schreef [email protected]:
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> Most PICs can operate at 3 Volt, below a screenshot from the datasheet. I 
> only use F versions.
>
>
> Just check the datasheet for the PICs that you have. 
>
> I have done several projects using a PIC that is supplied by batteries so 
> operating at 3 Volt or lower.
>
> What I do not know for sure if when you program the PIC if it should be at 
> 5 Volt, maybe only if you use Low Voltage Programming, so I  normally 
> program the PIC when it is connected to a 5 Volt power supply but in the 
> application it can run even on a supply voltage as low as 2 Volt.
>
> If you have peripherals that work at 5 Volt you could always use a step-up 
> converter to step-up the power supply from 3 Volt to 5 Volt.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
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> <[email protected]>
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 29 juni 2022 09:11
> *Aan:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] sun power use 
>  
> You may continue to use it at 5V if the energy extracted from the PV is 
> drawn via a MPPT ( maximum power point tracking) IC and your solar panel 
> assures the current needed for your electronics. Many panels have 6V open 
> at 0.3A or 0.5A short circuit current
> Actually any actual PICmicro will run on 3.3V ( including those rated for 
> 5V) if the internal oscillator is set to maximum frequency intended only 
> for 3.3V. Most of the low power PICs ( LF series) will run down to 2.2V ( 
> some down to 1.8V) so you may connect the solar panel directly on your LDO 
> without MPPT or PWM.
> best wishes
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 9:57 AM hans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I don't want to reinvent the wheel. 
>  Until now I have always used 5 volts supply voltage, but because of a 
> solar panel I would like to work on 3 volts. Which processors should I use 
> and what should I pay attention to?
> Thank you in advance,
> greetings Hans
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