Hi Geoff,

Thanks, I do know what a Venn diagram represents!

Also the page I linked to does show multiple properties for amino  acids.


The question was whether Threonine should be classed as hydrophobic (in which 
case the diagram needs amended) or not (in which case Jalview code needs 
amended).


>From a Google search on amino acid properties, these pages class T as not 
>hydrophobic:

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/life-science/metabolomics/learning-center/amino-acid-reference-chart.html

http://p53.iarc.fr/AAProperties.aspx

https://www.mcb.ucdavis.edu/courses/bis102/aaprop.html

https://www.thermofisher.com/uk/en/home/life-science/protein-biology/protein-biology-learning-center/protein-biology-resource-library/pierce-protein-methods/amino-acid-physical-properties.html#

http://www.proteinstructures.com/Structure/Structure/amino-acids.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acid#Physicochemical_properties_of_amino_acids

http://www.biology.arizona.edu/biochemistry/problem_sets/aa/Threonine.html


These class T as hydrophobic:

http://www.russelllab.org/aas/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Class/Structure/aa/aa_explorer.cgi


Question remains, which is it (for Jalview conservation purposes at least)?


thanks


mungo


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Subject: Re: [Jalview-dev] Is Threonine hydrophobic?


Hi Mungo,


The point of the Venn Diagram is that it shows amino acids to have multiple 
properties.  Threonine sits in the middle of the diagram and has the properties:

Polar, Hydrophobic, Small.


Simple classifications like the one you link to do not capture the fact that 
amino acids exhibit multiple physico-chemical properties.


Rob Russell developed the definitive online resource for amino acid properties: 
 See http://www.russelllab.org/aas/


Geoff.


On 01/11/2016 12:43, Mungo Carstairs (Staff) wrote:

The Venn Diagram (included in Jalview Help as Amino Acid Properties) says that 
it is.


Jalview code, and other reference sources, say it is hydrophilic.

e.g. http://p53.iarc.fr/AAProperties.aspx


Does the diagram need an update?


Thanks,


mungo


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