We also moved away from an avalon (cornerstone?) db connection pool, because of instabilities, and had problems with filenames.
I don't know how much of that is still valid. I Do know that Serge would be the best person to ask. d. > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 27 July 2002 20:57 > To: James Developers List > Subject: Re: Avalon feedback request > > > > > Danny Angus wrote: > > >Jeeze, where to start.. I'd suggest you trawl our archive & > bugzilla, I'll > >remember them sooner or later, but most likely later. > >I'll be sure to let you know what I do remember when it comes to me.. :-) > > > > > > Actually I have already done that. A big problem I encountered was > trying to figure out "what the actual issues were" because to a large > extent I found that there was a polarization that wasn't really about > Avalon, but more to do with jar dependencies. I didn't find "clearly > defined issues" except for maybe the subject of logging - but this again > came back to jar dependencies - and the overall architecture of James - > and how the Framework is used in that architecture - and the role of > Phoenix in that architecture. Across the board I found a great deal of > confusion in respect to the usage of the word Avalon - for some people > this appears to mean the Framework, for others it appears to mean > Framework+Phoenix and for other it appears to mean Framework+Phoenix > together with components from the Avalon Apps DB package. > > Personally I would like to see > > (a) improvements in the framework usage > (b) cleaning up of Avalon Excalibur dependencies (the Excalibur > packages has > been cleaned up a lot and you can now limit your > dependencies to only > those packages you need) - whereas the James lib includes all > Excalibur > contents > (c) elimination of structural dependencies on Phoenix (Block and > Block context > usage). This would eliminate the Phoenix jar dependency and is > relatively > easy to do. It would enable the deployment of James in more > application > scenarios (embedded, part of web-service), etc. - while > maintaining your > ability to deploy under Phoenix where appropriate. > > Cheers, Steve. > > > >d. > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>Sent: 27 July 2002 17:41 > >>To: James Developers List > >>Subject: Avalon feedback request > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Danny Angus wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>>I imagine that others on this mailing list have their own > wish lists. I > >>>>recognize that this list is ambitious, which is why I'd like to see a > >>>>larger committer base. A larger base would also make it less likely > >>>>that all the committers would be absent from participation in the > >>>>discussion lists at any given time. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>Not really absent just busy with other things. > >>>The traditional route to becoming a commiter is to contribute > >>> > >>> > >>code/patches > >> > >> > >>>and then to be proposed and elected by the comitters. > >>>I'm sure you'd see more activity here, even from commiters, if you were > >>>instigating discussions, submitting code and improving the product. > >>> > >>>One thing James currently lacks is a clear release plan for the > >>> > >>> > >>next cycle, > >> > >> > >>>it is suffering from a number of avalon inspired deficiencies > >>> > >>> > >>and there have > >> > >> > >>>been murmurings about moving away from avalon. I believe that > the head of > >>>CVS would not be as safe to use as v2.0.3 but have not had > time to drive > >>>forward the changes needed, assuming they are within James not phoenix. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Hi Danny: > >> > >>Could you, and/or perhaps other people on this list, provide more > >>detail the issues you have found concerning resources from the Avalon > >>community. Are these Avalon-Framework issues, Avalon-Phoenix issues, > >>Avalon-Logkit issues, or issues related to one of the many sub-systems > >>within the Avalon-Excalibur project? Just for reference - I am a > >>committer over on Avalon and I would like to understand what the issues > >>are and ensure that constructive feedback gets back to th Avalon > >>commnity - if that's appropriate. Aside from being a committer on > >>Avalon, I am also responsible for a large number of commercial business > >>and service management components (B2B collaboration, process > >>management, etc.) and I would like to get a better picture about the > >>potential integration of James into that framework. > >> > >>Cheers, Steve. > >> > >> > >>-- > >> > >>Stephen J. McConnell > >> > >>OSM SARL > >>digital products for a global economy > >>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://www.osm.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >> > >> > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -- Stephen J. 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