> I hate to say this but I total disagree concerning the PMC. I'm sorry about that, I do continue to feel that if we can't sort out our own code-related arguments then we are failing as a community. However the rest of your comments, about making the PMC work for us, I do agree with. I'm not saying we should not use our recourse to the PMC, otherwise from our POV what would they be there for? d.
> I really > think that there is a *major* fobia concerning project to PMC > interaction. Projects like James and Avalon and I'm sure other should > be making PMC members work their buts off for and on behalf of the > projects they are representing. IOf they don't have the bandwith then > the need to expand capacity - look at Jakarta today - it does not have > the bandwith to handle everything - which means that there is a > potential that they are not representing you. Due to that flack on the > reorg list concerning licensing I'm currently working with the PMC to > come up with a license solution with will take a lot of icky stuff out > of the code that I have committed (icky from a legal point of view). > The actions of the PMC have a potential to make the work I'm doing much > easier - engage more comitters in content I'm directly involved within. > I've been stuffing around with getting solutiuon "by myself" for 9 > months - then I went to thr PMC - winthin 48 hours we have a couple of > people who have the necessary contacts to make things happen jumped up > and voluteer to help. The board jumped in with opinions wich provide me > sufficient guidance so that I know what to do to conform with the > "Apache Way". > > Working with your PMC is a positive thing. > Making your PMC work for you is even better. > > :-D > > Cheers, Steve. > > > > >All of the above helps to reduce the possibility of code > yo-yo-ing between two competing designs. > > > >d. > > > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:james-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:james-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > > -- Stephen J. McConnell OSM SARL digital products for a global economy mailto:mcconnell@;osm.net http://www.osm.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:james-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:james-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:james-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:james-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
